Firm Foundation Posted May 27, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 4 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,280 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 854 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted May 27, 2019 2 hours ago, missmuffet said: We have evil in our world. Evil does not come from God. We can not blame God for all the evil in our world. Evil comes from Satan. Someday evil will be banished. God will triumph. We can know that God is with us. The question everyone is asking is why create the devil, and if one says he started out good, why not destroy him once he rebelled? Why wait? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted May 27, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,242 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted May 27, 2019 We dont always know why He does anything. We do know His ways are best. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightHopeLove Posted May 27, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 16 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/26/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted May 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Firm Foundation said: The question everyone is asking is why create the devil, and if one says he started out good, why not destroy him once he rebelled? Why wait? This is a good question. I can only speculate. To give creation free choice to choose the Lords way or rebel, there is a compromise where rebels know their fate, yet they are an example of where this leads. Satan will be thrown into the lake of fire to be tortured for all eternity. Gods heart is not to force loyalty and praise, but to show behaviour that deserves loyalty and praise. As in Job, the Lord takes pleasure is Jobs righteous behaviour and love for Him. He is looking for people who love God for who He is, and know the life that comes from His ways and His commands, not in legalism but in love. And why create creation and bring about this split? Because there is no other way to create a creation that chooses to follow the Lord, rather than a creation that is dictated to follow the Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted May 27, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.88 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted May 27, 2019 This fallen world belongs to Satan......for now...It’s a miracle that anything GOOD happens! Maybe the question should be “ why does anything good happen in a world that is under the rule of Satan?” The Truth of the matter is revealed in the Book of Job.Why do bad things happen? It’s none of our business.We are to trust God, not question Him.....after all , as He asked— “ where were you when I hung the planets?” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickm727 Posted May 27, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 46 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 27 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/17/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Firm Foundation said: The question everyone is asking is why create the devil, and if one says he started out good, why not destroy him once he rebelled? Why wait? Because it could help us grow? only thing I can think of. That, and without sin there would be no law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firm Foundation Posted May 27, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 4 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,280 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 854 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted May 27, 2019 I believe it is necessary that good and evil remain to complete God's plan in the Bible and then evil will be destroyed. I can't think of anything else that fits. Only God knows for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firm Foundation Posted May 27, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 4 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,280 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 854 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted May 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, Blood Bought 1953 said: This fallen world belongs to Satan......for now...It’s a miracle that anything GOOD happens! Maybe the question should be “ why does anything good happen in a world that is under the rule of Satan?” The Truth of the matter is revealed in the Book of Job.Why do bad things happen? It’s none of our business.We are to trust God, not question Him.....after all , as He asked— “ where were you when I hung the planets?” I am not troubled by it, but it is understandable people will have these questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtletwo Posted May 27, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 35 Topic Count: 1,192 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 7,264 Content Per Day: 1.19 Reputation: 15,710 Days Won: 194 Joined: 07/15/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted May 27, 2019 7 hours ago, diane32 said: I'm saying this probably from a heart filled with grief right now... @diane32 Dear sister, it takes courage to speak in the midst of your grief as you have. I am so sorry for your pain. Yet it blesses my heart that you choose to walk by faith, not sight. I commend you for not giving in to the negative (thoughts and feelings that I do understand.) 8 hours ago, diane32 said: But I know God's plan was always and is always good it's us who are evil and we don't understand everything and we won't understand everything because we aren't God but we have to trust Him and what it says in His word and I know all this and I know God sending Jesus was the most humbling amazing loving merciful thing ever to be done and it truly is amazing beyond what we can comprehend I am touched and inspired by the beautiful simplicity here. You rightly state that the blame belongs with sinful humans not our loving God. Sadly, the tragic things in this life can't be done away with as long as humans have free will. (God didn't want us to be robots.) The beauty of being able to choose brings with it the ugliness of some choosing evil. You reminded us that God showed His love in the most wonderful way by sending His only begotten Son to give us a way out of this madness. Our hope is in Him. But yes, it is heartbreaking when our loved ones who are unsaved seem trapped in darkness. It helps me to take comfort in the thought that God wants them saved even more than we do. 1 Timothy 2:4 says, "Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth." Hugs and prayers for you at this difficult time of loss. And thanks again for this honest post. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted May 27, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.82 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted May 27, 2019 Consider the lyrics to this song. "Blessings" Laura Story We pray for blessings, we pray for peace Comfort for family, protection while we sleep We pray for healing, for prosperity We pray for Your mighty hand to ease our suffering And all the while, You hear each spoken need Yet love us way too much to give us lesser things 'Cause what if Your blessings come through rain drops What if Your healing comes through tears What if a thousand sleepless nights are what it takes to know You're near What if trials of this life are Your mercies in disguise We pray for wisdom, Your voice to hear We cry in anger when we cannot feel You near We doubt your goodness, we doubt your love As if every promise from Your word is not enough And all the while, You hear each desperate plea And long that we'd have faith to believe 'Cause what if Your blessings come through rain drops What if Your healing comes through tears What if a thousand sleepless nights are what it takes to know You're near What if trials of this life are Your mercies in disguise When friends betray us When darkness seems to win We know that pain reminds this heart That this is not This is not our home It's not our home 'Cause what if Your blessings come through rain drops What if Your healing comes through tears What if a thousand sleepless nights are what it takes to know You're near What if my greatest disappointments or the aching of this life Is the revealing of a greater thirst this world can't satisfy What if trials of this life The rain, the storms, the hardest nights Are Your mercies in disguise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted May 27, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.82 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted May 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Firm Foundation said: The question everyone is asking is why create the devil, and if one says he started out good, why not destroy him once he rebelled? Why wait? I don't know I am not God. I sure He has a purpose for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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