creativemechanic Posted May 26, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 1,273 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 518 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted May 26, 2019 What do you think id this quote I heard online (from a non christian btw ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted May 27, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.22 Reputation: 11,242 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted May 27, 2019 Hmm I disagree with the premise that misplaced social obligations are the cause of marital troubles. Marriage is a lot of work with a lot of sacrifice for the greater good of the marriage. Too many dont get that. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willa Posted May 27, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 68 Topic Count: 185 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 14,224 Content Per Day: 3.34 Reputation: 16,647 Days Won: 30 Joined: 08/14/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted May 27, 2019 I so agree with Jade. We often go to Christian marriage seminars, go to marriage retreats, and take Sunday School classes in parenting, then spend the rest of our lives trying to apply the Biblical things we have learned. But it is so worth all the work to have children and grandchildren who love and serve God, especially when we look back and see that 90% of the results are due to God's grace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted May 27, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted May 27, 2019 Not everyone has to marry. It is a choice. Paul did say it is better not to marry. No one should ever feel like they have to get married. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted May 27, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.93 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted May 27, 2019 Marriage isn't for everyone. The same with having children. It's not for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted May 27, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted May 27, 2019 47 minutes ago, LadyKay said: Marriage isn't for everyone. The same with having children. It's not for everyone. Yes, if a couple do not feel like they can not be a good parent then by all means do not have them. It takes a very unselfish person to be a good parent. Look at what we are seeing in the news today. It is heartbreaking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creativemechanic Posted May 27, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 1,273 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 518 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 27, 2019 7 hours ago, missmuffet said: Yes, if a couple do not feel like they can not be a good parent then by all means do not have them. It takes a very unselfish person to be a good parent. Look at what we are seeing in the news today. It is heartbreaking. Yeah and i find we christians are so conditioned to believe its something we have to achieve. From observations and personal experiences it seems some o us are more concerned about getting a single married off that encouraging them to serve God or checking on them spiritually. I dont think its intentional but one seems to get way more attention than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted May 27, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 949 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,522 Content Per Day: 5.02 Reputation: 9,025 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted May 27, 2019 God had it covered already: Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. Now as a concession, not a command, I say this. I wish that all were as I myself am. But each has his own gift from God, one of one kind and one of another. To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain single, as I am. But if they cannot exercise self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion. To the married I give this charge (not I, but the Lord): the wife should not separate from her husband (but if she does, she should remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband), and the husband should not divorce his wife. To the rest I say (I, not the Lord) that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he should not divorce her. If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband is made holy because of his wife, and the unbelieving wife is made holy because of her husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy. But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you to peace. For how do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife? Live as You Are Called Only let each person lead the life that the Lord has assigned to him, and to which God has called him. This is my rule in all the churches. Was anyone at the time of his call already circumcised? Let him not seek to remove the marks of circumcision. Was anyone at the time of his call uncircumcised? Let him not seek circumcision. For neither circumcision counts for anything nor uncircumcision, but keeping the commandments of God. Each one should remain in the condition in which he was called. Were you a bondservant when called? Do not be concerned about it. (But if you can gain your freedom, avail yourself of the opportunity.) For he who was called in the Lord as a bondservant is a freedman of the Lord. Likewise he who was free when called is a bondservant of Christ. You were bought with a price; do not become bondservants of men. So, brothers, in whatever condition each was called, there let him remain with God. The Unmarried and the Widowed Now concerning the betrothed, I have no command from the Lord, but I give my judgment as one who by the Lord's mercy is trustworthy. I think that in view of the present distress it is good for a person to remain as he is. Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be free. Are you free from a wife? Do not seek a wife. But if you do marry, you have not sinned, and if a betrothed woman marries, she has not sinned. Yet those who marry will have worldly troubles, and I would spare you that. This is what I mean, brothers: the appointed time has grown very short. From now on, let those who have wives live as though they had none, and those who mourn as though they were not mourning, and those who rejoice as though they were not rejoicing, and those who buy as though they had no goods, and those who deal with the world as though they had no dealings with it. For the present form of this world is passing away. I want you to be free from anxieties. The unmarried man is anxious about the things of the Lord, how to please the Lord. But the married man is anxious about worldly things, how to please his wife, and his interests are divided. And the unmarried or betrothed woman is anxious about the things of the Lord, how to be holy in body and spirit. But the married woman is anxious about worldly things, how to please her husband. I say this for your own benefit, not to lay any restraint upon you, but to promote good order and to secure your undivided devotion to the Lord. If anyone thinks that he is not behaving properly toward his betrothed, if his passions are strong, and it has to be, let him do as he wishes: let them marry—it is no sin. But whoever is firmly established in his heart, being under no necessity but having his desire under control, and has determined this in his heart, to keep her as his betrothed, he will do well. So then he who marries his betrothed does well, and he who refrains from marriage will do even better. A wife is bound to her husband as long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is free to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord. Yet in my judgment she is happier if she remains as she is. And I think that I too have the Spirit of God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted May 27, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted May 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, Neighbor said: God had it covered already: That about ties a knot in this thread. Well posted, Neighbor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted May 27, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,298 Content Per Day: 1.73 Reputation: 1,685 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted May 27, 2019 14 hours ago, creativemechanic said: What do you think id this quote I heard online (from a non christian btw ) There are two things wrong with it. 1. That marriage breakdown is the mans fault. The stats are that more women initiate divorce then men. A breack down of reasons sums up as, 'He doesn't make me happy.' 2. The assumption that marriage is easy and the presumption that because it is hard they will fail. Here's a link to an article that talks about the importance of Fathers and the consquences of no fault divorce:- https://winteryknight.com/2019/01/13/if-we-seriously-want-men-to-marry-and-become-fathers-lets-repeal-no-fault-divorce-2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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