Jostler Posted May 31, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 25 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,679 Content Per Day: 1.40 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 16 Joined: 01/19/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) If you don't watch the news you're uninformed. If you do you're misinformed. The only way I've found is to watch MANY outlets, while investigating and trying to understand the biases of each one. US mainstream outlets...without exception are PROPAGANDA. They're not in the business of informing anyone. They're perception management tools fully controlled by interests that are completely sold out to satan's agenda. FOX just happens to spew a brand of poison more palatable to conservatives than the overtly socialist outlets, which is most of the rest. Russia Today has been far more open and truthful than any US outlet has been for years ... sad to say. A healthy dose of truly independent sources will get you closer to understanding the truth. I think some effort to be informed is probably necessary for most of us. Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for their blindness to the "signs of the times". I don't know how we can avoid that same rebuke if we don't make some effort to understand what our times look like. Quote Mat 16:1-2 ¶ Now when the Pharisees and Sadducees came to test Jesus, they asked him to show them a sign from heaven. He said, "When evening comes you say, 'It will be fair weather, because the sky is red,' and in the morning, 'It will be stormy today, because the sky is red and darkening.' You know how to judge correctly the appearance of the sky, but you cannot evaluate the signs of the times. And He seems to be saying it should be simpler for us to understand the signs of the times than it is to remember a red sky at dawn means storms and a red sky at night means fair weather. Edited May 31, 2019 by Jostler 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted May 31, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted May 31, 2019 4 hours ago, Jaydog1976 said: While this a noble answer it isn't quite the response we should give as Christians. We should care about what is going on because we as Christians should be informed of what is going on around us. God never asked us to walk around blindly to the world. He did say not to conform to the world but we are still in this world. We are called to be good citizens. How can I be a good citizen if I don't even know what is going on as a citizen? I used to think this way too until one day I realized that as a Christian I still can play a part in world events. Yes God will ultimately win but in the meantime we also can't just take the easy road and ignore what is going on around us. They are just worldly events. There is a lot of porno on the news websites and it is all negative news. There is enough strife in our lives today why add to it? God has it so I am content to let Him have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debp Posted May 31, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 52 Topic Count: 1,014 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 12,271 Content Per Day: 1.79 Reputation: 16,330 Days Won: 92 Joined: 07/19/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted May 31, 2019 8 hours ago, Sower said: I appreciate the gist of what your saying, Debp, but my life, my family, work/business(s), church, friends etc has a greater priority of my time. I am too affected emotionally, listening to the vile lies from the politically corrupt and others, those who seek to destroy the basis of what I believe that was God's plan for man that He has set in place, the family. I think it's my age. (Or my blood pressure:) I've heard it said many times and believe it true, that we all have to pick our own battles. My wife and I were very involved for many years in a grass roots group when home schooling all our kids, that was part of a nationwide network of constituents monitoring legislation in DC. This was before internet. We got the word out, phones and mail,and often shut down the phones in Washington's political beehive. And we were notorious up there. Involved. But trying to get local churches and members or friends involved back then was fruitless. Most just didn't want to know. They would then be held accountable. I passed the torch to my now adult children, and enjoy my family and friends in these 'golden' years. And plant a few seeds, in the local. In stead of knowing about all the tragedies world wide, I would rather help out with local problems, and neighbors, that I can actually do something about. I do appreciate hearing from you though about the interesting things you bring up. Those on this forum, like yourself, keep me googling up new "info" I've never heard of. A much better source, amongst believers, while monitoring ourselves. ps Did the boys trapped in the cave in Thailand survive? Yes, the 12 boys and their coach trapped two and a half miles inside the massive cavern by rising monsoon rain were finally rescued. 100 divers including Navy Seals helped with the rescue through murky waters. People were outside trying to pump out cave water as more heavy rains were due. One Navy Seal died inside the caves while transporting air tanks. The boys were put to sleep in order for the divers to transport them out of the caves on stretchers through the underwater narrow passages. A movie is being made on the story of this rescue.... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tham_Luang_cave_rescue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydog1976 Posted May 31, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 626 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 360 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/24/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted May 31, 2019 5 hours ago, missmuffet said: They are just worldly events. There is a lot of porno on the news websites and it is all negative news. There is enough strife in our lives today why add to it? God has it so I am content to let Him have it. Hmmm I tend to linger around FOX and CNN quite a bit but I sure don't seem to remember there being porno on those new sites. Also while I agree there is strife in our lives living blindly to whats going on around us is not the answer. How do you know what to pray for when praying for a leaders? How do you know what is going on in your community and how you can best serve the community if you don't know what is going on? To me as Christians we should be very aware what is going on around us. Just some thoughts. Everyone reacts to the news differently. I just know for me I would rather know what is going on in the world so that I can make better decisions and know how to pray more specifically. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydog1976 Posted May 31, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 626 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 360 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/24/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted May 31, 2019 6 hours ago, Jostler said: If you don't watch the news you're uninformed. If you do you're misinformed. The only way I've found is to watch MANY outlets, while investigating and trying to understand the biases of each one. US mainstream outlets...without exception are PROPAGANDA. They're not in the business of informing anyone. They're perception management tools fully controlled by interests that are completely sold out to satan's agenda. FOX just happens to spew a brand of poison more palatable to conservatives than the overtly socialist outlets, which is most of the rest. Russia Today has been far more open and truthful than any US outlet has been for years ... sad to say. A healthy dose of truly independent sources will get you closer to understanding the truth. I think some effort to be informed is probably necessary for most of us. Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for their blindness to the "signs of the times". I don't know how we can avoid that same rebuke if we don't make some effort to understand what our times look like. And He seems to be saying it should be simpler for us to understand the signs of the times than it is to remember a red sky at dawn means storms and a red sky at night means fair weather. Remember that journalism is all about bias. It doesn't matter if it is US media or an independent source. I don't necessarily jump on the bandwagon of US mainstream outlets being propaganda though I would say that it is opinion based more than fact based. However, I can muddle through it and get the facts that I need. Yes I agree that news needs to get back to being news but I think those times are long gone. What I think needs to happen is that Christians need to stop watching the talk shows on those new channels. They are such a waste of time. All they are doing is preaching to the choir and accomplishing what? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debp Posted May 31, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 52 Topic Count: 1,014 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 12,271 Content Per Day: 1.79 Reputation: 16,330 Days Won: 92 Joined: 07/19/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted May 31, 2019 I find the Japanese news on NHK to be very objective....they just report it. Plus Japanese station, NHK, has some nice, interesting programs I sometimes watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted May 31, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Jaydog1976 said: Hmmm I tend to linger around FOX and CNN quite a bit but I sure don't seem to remember there being porno on those new sites. Also while I agree there is strife in our lives living blindly to whats going on around us is not the answer. How do you know what to pray for when praying for a leaders? How do you know what is going on in your community and how you can best serve the community if you don't know what is going on? To me as Christians we should be very aware what is going on around us. Just some thoughts. Everyone reacts to the news differently. I just know for me I would rather know what is going on in the world so that I can make better decisions and know how to pray more specifically. Why as a Christian do we need to be very aware of what is going on? What can we do about it? God is in control. I give this world to Him. I got rid of my television years ago. I only view the news on the computer. Edited May 31, 2019 by missmuffet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Luke11 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) 23 hours ago, cantankerous5 said: I watch a lot of news (not lib news or what some call fake news, although I often wonder if we get the "whole story" anywhere) But I am getting burnt out on doing this because it seems it is always about celebrities and famous people and etc... It is only about everyday people when there is a natural disaster or something like that. So I am wondering how much news you people watch, if any? I used to not watch any but a few yrs ago, I began to watch a lot because I had some work-related issues and was not able to work as much as I wanted and so.. had time on my hands. I am not sure I have as much time anymore but in any case... just want to hear from others, esp those who have been more/less closely following current events.. Yes the news is a propaganda machine... it designed to keep people dumb down like ALL TV IS... I notice on my news it as celebs and sport on it to... I COULDNT CARE LESS ABOUT SOUL SELLING CELEBS OR ANY SPORT.... I want the REAL news... theys people dieing in the world and wars and yet we hear about a football team scoring a goal instead ?... drives me mad. I am also FED UP with all the SJW rubbish same old same old cr'p so I just turn it off from now on... I get my news from trusty alternative sources now. But I still watch the mainstream just to see what agendas they are pushing youll notice the news Is biased and says it is getting both points of view... but it dosnt.. because you can tell by the kind of questions they ask and the parts of country or region they visit they are being biased and are supporting one side over the other and try and get you to support that side too... whenever news does this.... I tend to always support the ''bad side'' because they usually the good side. Over the years it is what I have come to learn. Edited May 31, 2019 by Luke11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted May 31, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted May 31, 2019 21 hours ago, ayin jade said: I consider abc, cbs, nbc, fox, cnn, msnbc to be mainstream media. I would agree. Fox also seems to be the highest in sensationalism as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted May 31, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.32 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted May 31, 2019 On 5/30/2019 at 11:12 AM, cantankerous5 said: I watch a lot of news (not lib news or what some call fake news, although I often wonder if we get the "whole story" anywhere) But I am getting burnt out on doing this because it seems it is always about celebrities and famous people and etc... It is only about everyday people when there is a natural disaster or something like that. So I am wondering how much news you people watch, if any? I used to not watch any but a few yrs ago, I began to watch a lot because I had some work-related issues and was not able to work as much as I wanted and so.. had time on my hands. I am not sure I have as much time anymore but in any case... just want to hear from others, esp those who have been more/less closely following current events.. I won't watch anything but Fox News nowadays, because it seems like the other networks just want to get rid of the president. I turn the news on at 11:00 while I have lunch and 3:00 while I have the first part of my supper. Frequently I'll turn it on for a while at 6:00 and listen to a bit of Hannity, though that's more opinion (opinion I agree with) than news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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