simplejeff Posted June 3, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.41 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted June 3, 2019 On 6/1/2019 at 7:50 PM, Luke11 said: Because to be Human means to have the threat of Hell for eternity looming over us..... but animals don't have that to worry about plus they supposedly go by instinct so they don't have free will like we do, so by having free will we mess up a lot. Wouldn't it have just been better if we was like robots or if we was instead animals because then we wouldn't think we would just do... thinking is cause of most suffering , Wish I could be my cat just sleeping all day long and then get fed ahhh. not having to worry about ANYTHING. All humans / all mankind / IS CURSED/ doomed to destruction...... nothing needs to be done to be condemned - that's already accomplished. Thus, is anyone 'wants' to be 'saved', they'd better seek the Kingdom of God (which IS at hand), and keep seeking His Kingdom, in order to find it, otherwise, unless there's any exceptions , the option not seeking means remaining dead in trespasses and sin. A few will be saved, according to all Scripture. But not those who remain dead in their sin, no - they are resurrected to judgment. There's no threat of hell - everyone is born separated from God and outside of Jesus Christ, until (and IF) they are redeemed by HIS BLOOD (quite outside of and contrary to all the roman catholic teachings, practices and doctrines which are all opposed to Jesus.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted June 4, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted June 4, 2019 On 6/1/2019 at 5:50 PM, Luke11 said: Because to be Human means to have the threat of Hell for eternity looming over us..... but animals don't have that to worry about plus they supposedly go by instinct so they don't have free will like we do, so by having free will we mess up a lot. Wouldn't it have just been better if we was like robots or if we was instead animals because then we wouldn't think we would just do... thinking is cause of most suffering , Wish I could be my cat just sleeping all day long and then get fed ahhh. not having to worry about ANYTHING. How do you know that animals don't have to worry about going to hell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted June 4, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 897 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,621 Content Per Day: 2.03 Reputation: 5,821 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted June 4, 2019 It's more of a curse to be a fallen angel for which there is no redemption since there is no kinsman redeemer for them. They were created in their eternal state. We were created so that we could die and be resurrected. In Genesis 3 it is said that an angel guarded the tree of life from Adam and Eve after their fall. This was to keep their sin nature from being eternal. Remember also, God could have chosen not to bother with humanity at all after the fall. So, is it a curse to be human? Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobleseed Posted June 4, 2019 Group: Members * Followers: 1 Topic Count: 83 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 341 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 117 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) On 6/2/2019 at 10:50 AM, Luke11 said: Because to be Human means to have the threat of Hell for eternity looming over us..... but animals don't have that to worry about plus they supposedly go by instinct so they don't have free will like we do, so by having free will we mess up a lot. Wouldn't it have just been better if we was like robots or if we was instead animals because then we wouldn't think we would just do... thinking is cause of most suffering , Wish I could be my cat just sleeping all day long and then get fed ahhh. not having to worry about ANYTHING. being human is the greatest privilege in life and we are the envy of animals, what is man that u are mindful of him, we are made in the image of God, and God loves us so much that he gave his son so we do not go to hell but to heaven. just have faith and seek him and u will have the desires of your heart. Edited June 4, 2019 by nobleseed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted June 5, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.41 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted June 5, 2019 On 6/3/2019 at 8:54 PM, johnthebaptist said: How do you know that animals don't have to worry about going to hell? Which use/ definition of "hell"/ in Scripture (or not in Scripture, from greek mythology) , are you using ? Where in Scripture, or anywhere, do you see "animals worry" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted June 5, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, simplejeff said: Which use/ definition of "hell"/ in Scripture (or not in Scripture, from greek mythology) , are you using ? Where in Scripture, or anywhere, do you see "animals worry" ? Where does it say they don't worry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted June 6, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,272 Content Per Day: 1.73 Reputation: 1,677 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted June 6, 2019 On 02 June 2019 at 1:50 AM, Guest Luke11 said: Because to be Human means to have the threat of Hell for eternity looming over us..... but animals don't have that to worry about plus they supposedly go by instinct so they don't have free will like we do, so by having free will we mess up a lot. Wouldn't it have just been better if we was like robots or if we was instead animals because then we wouldn't think we would just do... thinking is cause of most suffering , Wish I could be my cat just sleeping all day long and then get fed ahhh. not having to worry about ANYTHING. Christians do not have the threat of hell looming over them. RThey have the promise of an etenity with Jesus were there is nothing bad. If God had not given us the intellectual ability to determine good or evil acts we would be robots. 'Thinking is the cause of most suffering' NO the rejection of God and of his ways is the cause of most suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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