This morning when i was in the Gym, and in fact, before i went and was doing about an hr of stretching and light weights, i was thinking about this "lose your salvation" madness that just infects so many Christian Forums and so many troubled Christians.
Its is a sad fact that a person can be born again, and not actually understand anything about how and why, and be saved 40 yrs.
Listen Saint... We live in an era where time is speeding up, info technology is off the rails, and Reality is becoming "virtual". So, the effect of all this on our minds, is to almost create a detachment from the real Truth, which is the Bible, and Who is heading our way from Heaven, soon. Also....Satan is alive. He is not Joking. He wants you in the dark, out of touch with God, and not really concerned about what really matters.
So, let me talk more about heretics.
I often ask one of these Forum heretics to post about Grace, and they never do. As a matter of fact, they usually become really really quiet. After all, a heretic obviously doesn't understand Grace, or they have rejected the Grace of God, in favor of only existing on a Christian Forum to obsessively try to ruin a REAL believer's peace of heart and soundness of Mind, by trying to Theologically con-job them into the Lake of Fire if they don't qualify for Heaven regarding the heretic's particular LIST of all the works they will teach that you must DO DO DO DO DO DO DO DO to >stay saved<,..... Notice that the heretic is always trying to keep Jesus from keeping you saved? Have you noticed this yet? The Heretic is always trying to give you a Salvation Substitute that keeps you saved. That's their calling-card. That's their Heretic ID Badge. They want Jesus off the Cross and you On it , saving yourself by whatever list they want you to keep. Maybe the list is "enduring to the end", or maybe the list is "Commandment keeping" or not "willfully sinning", or doing "works of Obedience", or the always popular, "well if you turn your back on God, or lose your faith, or renounce your faith"........ So, all of that is just works, its all YOUR EFFORT that they say you have to DO so that you dont "lose it", as according to them, you and NOT God thru Christ keeps you saved. = "HERESY".
The question arises..... regarding all they say and teach....how could they know anything about The Grace of God, to begin with,????? and if they did, they have long ago rejected it. See, you can't be a True believer in the Free Gift of Salvation, and teach that you can lose your salvation. These 2 positions cancel each other out. This is "double minded" on hyper-steroids.
God's Grace and "lose your salvation" do not exist within the same Blood Atonement, or Redemption, that is only found in the "gift of Righteousness". Its not by our WORKS but according to God's MERCY" that we are saved and stay saved..
See that? You have to want to not see that, if you can't see it. "not by WORKS".... And what is "works'........its everything that you can DO, Saint. Its your LIFESTYLE, your THINKING,...BEHAVIOR.. its all the parts that make up your DOING SOMTHING... Its all YOU YOU YOU......and that is NOT JESUS Saving you. And that is not having FAITH in Christ........at all..
Something that is interesting is that if a person believes they can "lose it", its because they are trusting in themselves to keep it. So, that means they are not trusting in Christ, to keep them saved, but only acknowledge that He began their Salvation. So, if anyone could lose their salvation because they have lost their faith, its the people who think and believe that they can lose their salvation, because the reason they believe this is because they are no longer trusting in Christ to keep them saved.....See how that works? So, they have literally become the victims of their own Christ Rejecting heresy, and are oblivious to their own lack of True Faith, as their spiritual condition. Its the pot calling the kettle black, and its the same person who is both the pot and the black.
And its also a truth that as soon as a person becomes born again, they almost always have a desire to know more about the Bible...... and the cults, and the Devil, (same Heretics) both know this, so they are always looking for the new Christian to ruin , because the "babe in Christ" is an easy spiritual KILL, because they are so happy to BELIEVE YOU if you can speak a bit of Bible verse and seem sincere. The baby believer has no idea that the Church is infected with heresy, since Day 1.....and now a long time dumbed down by doctrinally inferior "new" Bible versions, and so, many New Believers just get trapped and ruined their very first year. And 40 yrs later, they are found on a Christian Forum trying to convince all born again believers that being born again isn't permanent, and that "Christ in You", is only as certain as the last time you confessed all your sins... (that you can recall).
Ive shared Paul's doctrine of God's Grace with many many people who want to just beat their heads against a wall because i told them that " the Same God who saved you, will keep you saved"....and why? Because He said so.... Philippians 1:6.
Ive had the same group try to use that same wall and their same heads when i tell them that "your Faith is not what saved you".. as this comment just stings self righteous flesh. But then if i remind this type that God SAVED them using the blood of Jesus, and that their Faith is what God accepted TO SAVE THEM, = to administer the Grace, to impute the redemption, their SALVATION< then they can often "see it". But till they do, they will cling to Faith as if FAITH...this idea and concept...... is actually the REDEEMER, and not Jesus Himself.
"Got to hold onto your faith if you want to stay out of Hell. " Well, not quite. What you have to do is give God your Faith, so that He then SAVES YOU, and Keeps you saved.....because you did.
A Heretic, believes that "working out your salvation with fear and trembling" means...."Save yourself, because Christ isn't going to do it unless you are good enough, obedient enough, etc"...
Do you see what this really means? It means the heretic is discounting and denying The Blood of Jesus as being capable of keeping you saved. It means that the Heretic is not giving full credit to the finished work of Jesus on the Cross as what SAVES and Keeps you Saved, and they are instead taking credit for it, by what they believe they must DO"... (Self Saving).... And they'd have you believe this also, if possible. They'd have you up on that Cross right now if you'll just be self righteousness enough to go....
Don't do that. Instead give all the praise, honor, glory, and CREDIT, to the SAVIOR GOD as Jesus The Christ, who saved you, and keeps you saved the same WAY He saved you. = God made you RIGHTEOUS and The Blood of Jesus Keeps you Righteous. (Keeps you SAVED).
Faith isn't the Redeemer. Jesus is the Redeemer, and God saves us through HIM because we did what God told us to do, so that He DOES. = we BELIEVED. so, "faith is counted as righteousness", but its the RIGHTEOUSNESS that is Imputed, that is charged to us, given freely as the "gift of Righteousness"... that makes us accepted by God, = Born Again. = SAVED.
Can you do all that for yourself? Heretics think you can, and want you to try for the rest of your LIFE.... And that is why they try to fearmonger you into thinking you can LOSE YOUR SALVATION< = so then you'll start wondering and worrying and then you'll start trying to SAVE YOURSELF... = Stop Trusting in Christ ALONE to KEEP YOU SAVED. Listen, If you buy their baloney you'll start ranting about Commandment Keeping, and working works works works, and before long, you'll be their newly trained Heretic and think the only 3 epistles in the bible are Hebrews, James, and Matthew., where Heretics live.
See how it works when you add it all up correctly? ???????????
So, is any reader sitting there wondering about this word FAITH? Kinda unsure about how to understand FAITH? Alright. Think of Salvation like this... You are sitting in a dark room. There is a ceiling fan light above your head. There is a light switch on the Wall. So, you turn on the Switch, and the Light comes on. Right? So, is the switch the LIGHT? Is the SWITCH the LIGHT? ? ? ? or is the Switch what causes the Light to come on? So, Faith is the SWITCH< but its not the Light. Jesus is the Light. Salvation is the LIGHT.. Grace is the Light. Redemption is the LIGHT..... .And God has this Light and wants to give it to "all who will" (flip the switch)...., and you RECEIVE it ALL, when you turn on the Switch.....The switch is Faith. But...Faith is only the switch. Eternal Redemption, is the LIGHT. So, dont confuse them as one, as they are not. Faith activates the ONE WHO SAVED YOU. Faith is the switch, Salvation, who is JESUS, is the LIGHT.
Most Born again Christians don't begin with the idea that "Jesus started my Salvation, and now its my responsibility to keep myself out of hell for the rest of my life by being good enough". This is taught to them by heretics, and once they believe it, the Devil then directs them to the very few verses that seem, at first glance, (and not rightly divided), which seem to prove that your salvation is a slippery uphill slope and you are standing on the wet Soap.
Thank GOD Thru Christ that the fact is, our Salvation is not dependent on our BEHAVIOR, but its solely dependent on our Father God who SAVED US.
So, lets take the bullets out of the Heretics favorite Gun.... Lets take the fangs out of the snake.
A Christian Forum Heretic is always found, twisting their favorite epistle (Hebrews).. and usually one specific verse that says,.."if we sin willfully", ...The heretic proudly proclaims...so if you do THAT you'll go to hell !!!!!, And the final answer is... Romans 4:8. Its Says that God does not charge your sin to you in eternity, (no Judgement for sin waiting for you there)..... so, willful, unwillful, kinda willful, 12% willful, 73% willful, or 110% willful, this verse isn't talking to anyone who is Born again, because ... A.) Every born again person has sinned willfully since they were saved. . B.) Romans 4:8
Heretics actually never closely read the verse, (or the New Testament) because, notice... this verse does not give you any way OUT. Its says, if you do it, you are going to hell. And so, how do you know this verse isn't speaking to a born again Christian? Its because every single born again Christian, has at some point after there are saved, committed at least ONE willful sin. Every one of you, and your Pastor, Mother, Me, all of us. And if you say you didn't mean to watch Game of Thrones for 7 seasons, or if you say that you accidentally cheated on your taxes,(a few times) or you accidentally called in sick to your job when you really were not, or (speaking very frankly now) you accidentally committed a sex act in your head-imagination with a "non-spouse" that you enjoyed.... or it was an accident that you had 3 more pieces of cake after that 5th one....... so, who has not sinned willfully since they were born again ????..... and yes "little willful sins" count.... The verse says if you SIN. >Singular< ONCE....."willfully". ...you are going to hell, and this cant be stopped, changed, undone, or confessed away, ... and penance and purgatory are also OUT !
So, do you see reader, that if this verse about "if we sin willfully", which has no remedy, and as all people, including all Born Again believers have sinned willfully at least ONCE< then this verse if its directed at the Body of Christ, has just condemned all of us to hell and then the lake of fire. And no way to change it. No way out. No way back. Understand ??
Sorry, no. , Wrongly Divided. So, lets "rightly divide".
First... this book, (Hebrews) is not directed at the CHURCH< in its opening greeting. As if you'll notice , as compared, almost all of the Epistles that are written by Apostles are written to specific BELIEVERS by name or "Grettings to the CHRUCH at ___________."..... But not this BOOK. ITs written and directed to the HEBREWS.....(Unsaved Jews)....and so, now that we realize this....... we can now understand that there is only one sin that is unforgivable that THEY can commit, .. There is only One willful sin, that will never be forgiven, as that verse says..... And this sin is Christ rejection. as this IS the "willful sin", that sends you to hell, because, if you die a Christ Rejector, you have willingly and willfully done this..... And something else that your Sunday School Pastor probably didnt teach you, or your Pastor, if they talk about this verse, and that is..... Its Paul who is talking there to this group of HEBREWS, and He is the one who Wrote Romans 4:8...and delivered the Doctrine of Faith and Justification there by..... So, more then anyone, he would know that there is no "willful sinning" that can damn a Believer, as God does not impute your sin to you in eternity...... Paul is talking to a group of Jews. The epistle is written to the "Hebrews". So, ask yourself... would Paul be talking to born again people about sinning and being damned by one sin when He wrote that God does not charge ANY of your sin to you in eternity, in Romans 4:8? So, i'll tell you what Paul was doing, until Acts 28 when He told these same type of Hebrews Christ Rejectors, that he was finished with them and would take the Gospel to the GENTILES from then on..... Read it. So, you have Paul, writing to the Hebrews, and talking to unsaved Jews, who are rejecting the Gospel, and He is warning them that the sin of Christ rejection, this willful sin, that they are "sinning willfully" has no eternal forgiveness found for it, because if you DIE having rejected the Blood of Jesus and the Cross, there is no Blood of Christ left to save you., and you committed this sin WILLFULLY., and it is unpardonable. Its that sin, Reader...
Free will is a blessing unless you use it to willfully reject Christ, and you die this way. = Having willfully committed the one WILLFUL sin, that eternally damns all who are damned. This is the Unpardonable Sin.
So, Hebrews is NOT ADDRESSED to the "church", or to the Born again Believers....... Paul is not preaching to the Redeemed in this "sin willfully" verse found in Hebrews,.......of that, you can believe.
Notice that Jesus said.....>"you must be born again".....but He didn't say......And then, "here is the list you have to do, and if you don't"....... "uh oh".
No, the list comes from the self righteous, who are infected early on, usually, with heresy and thriving self righteousness, and then just never were able to recover themselves, as its actually pretty difficult to stop being a preacher of the Law, pretending this is "Salvation", once you get up and running and have been doing it for years. And what makes it worse for them, is that when they meet me, or someone like me, they feel that they are being persecuted for doing "God's work", and this makes them even more sure they are right. Calling them out, actually tends to empower the pride in a Heretic, but, it has to be done, openly, for the benefit of the real believers who might be so very harmed by them.... So, that's just how it has to be. That's how it is.
Satan enjoys all this so much. He loves to pit self righteousness against Grace and watch the sparks fly around the world, as He understand that "can any 2 walk together, unless they be agreed ? " So, he creates entire denominations that TEACH people to trust in themselves, and their works, and their self righteousness, as their way to keep themselves saved. = And that is what Legalism is actually teaching. And what it causes is STRIFE, and "where strife is, is CONFUSION and every evil work"..... So, Who is the author of confusion? Satan. And that is why i always warn heretics by telling them..... wherever i meet them, that "You are doing the Devil's work", as this is a fact.
Here is a simple Thread concerning ONE always confused "lightning rod" topic(s).....3.) "What is blasphemy of the HS">. along with 1.) OSAS, and 2.) "losing salvation". And the lack of understanding about these 3 really defines the distinction between legalists, and the born again. It also exposes the level of New Testament understanding a believer or non, actually has understood, regarding The Blood Atonement and Redemption and Grace.
The fact is... if you are not saved, or if you are saved but are religious..(Legalist) OR.... if you are very self righteous in both cases, then this comes to light very brightly regarding how you will react on Threads that deal with those 3 topics.
Here is something to know... If you are a deep student of the word of God, then you are a deep student of Paul, of His epistles, = deep student of the Grace of God. If you are not a deep student of the word, you will not be familiar with Paul's teaching (Doctrine), and that is why you will have such an issue with understanding that Grace has replaced "works", and that is why so many argue endlessly on Christian Forums, trying to prove that the Grace of God is only as good as you are... regarding you "staying saved".
Now think about that, and God give you light., if you are one of the many who is trying to keep yourself saved by your lifestyle.
Ok, Blasphemy of the HS.. One way to think of it, is simply.... the act of being an obstacle between a person and them finding the Lord or being born again. In other words, if you or if anyone somehow creates a situation where someone would be blocked from their pursuit of Salvation. This is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. And example would be an Atheist online, on a forum, telling people that God is a myth, Jesus is not risen, and Christianity is a hoax. If you are over 50, and you remember Peter Jennings, former anchor of ABC News, or Christopher Hitchens, a famous European Political Analyst... Well, just before both of them died, they decided to pursue , in public, the idea that Jesus is a myth, and Christianity is a Hoax. And they both died not long after they decide to preach this message of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. So, its like i tell atheists on forums that are not Christian Forums.. I tell them that until they can prove that God does not exist, then its best to stand back from the pulpit where they are preaching their unbelief against God, in public, as God has shorter patience for this, ive noticed over the years. "God is not mocked". "it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the Living God".......and that is a fact, regarding God who is Love.
The best state of mind and mouth an unbeliever can have, is to think..."well, until i can prove that God does not exist, i will keep an open mind and a closed mouth regarding preaching my unbelief in public.
I personally, have zero patience and zero tolerance for anyone who claims the names of Jesus, and goes on Christian forums and tries to talk people out of their salvation, by lying to them. And the lie is to tell a born again believer that they can stop being born again, if they behave badly, or dont have enough obedience, works....commandment keeping....etc. This really galls me, and fires up my Righteous indignation to the MAX , because its a so called "christian" doing the devil's work, on a Christian forum, and this should not be allowed, and i do my best to stomp on it, because its so harmful in its effect on weak Christians who are not grounded in Grace, and fall prey to these mind blinded workers of deceit. See, i dont think any of you have ever actually tried to help someone who believes they have lost their salvation, because some heretic idiot convinced them, usually by twisting verses in Hebrews, to cause this mental breakdown. And i mean its a mental breakdown that many born again have and are having., thinking they are lost and going to hell, panicked, living in dreadful FEAR....Dysfunctional human beings....ruined...... when if fact they are saved and are going to heaven. Ive seen the devastation of real Christians that is caused by this work of the devil, using a so called "Christian" to achieve it. And once you have seen this, you'll be a lot more anti-sensitive to these devils who hang out on forums like this one, then you are now. Real Christian Forums, should have zero tolerance for these heretics. ZERO. Their should be a statement of Faith that says....""We do not allow members to harass and try to confuse other members regarding the heresy defined as " losing your salvation". This is not tolerated. If you are discovered to be doing it, you will be warned once. If you persist, you will be permanently banned. ""
Ok, back to the teaching....
Now, when we want to understand what Jesus is talking about when He is talking to the religious leaders, of His day, about their blasphemy, then you have to stop right there, and see that this is a specific moment, with Jesus himself being accused of doing His works by the power of the Devil. So, ask yourself.... who isn't doing this, is who this verse does NOT apply to ???? That would be everyone who was not there at that time.
Now why would what these Pharisees were saying to and about Jesus, "not be forgiven now or in the world to come".. and this is KEY.. If you can see this, then you will have a lot of light regarding something very simple that applies across the board to any and all Christ Rejectors..
Understand that this sin that they were committing by accusing the Lord of being the Devil's tool....... It isnt this specific sin that Jesus is referring to that would damn them that day, or "In the world to come"...
So, what is the sin that Jesus is actually talking about, that is their damnation, as it is the damnation of all who commit it?
Its the sin of rejecting Christ as Savior. Its the sin of dying unsaved. Its Jesus explaining...."If you do not believe that I AM the messiah, then you will die IN YOUR SIN(s)". (Unforgiven)... And this is explained technically and literally in John 3:36, where it says that you dont have to be dead to be damned, and that the judgment of God against your sin, is currently IN PLACE, regarding anybody and everyone who is not born again and is of the age of accountability.
See a person who is damned, is judged by God as damned, and this is happening as long as they are rejecting Christ, which means, RIGHT NOW....The only thing that changes, is that the final end result is given to them for their Christ Rejection, after they die. = Hell, then the Lake of Fire. That is the eternal end result of Christ Rejection, that IS Damnation, that was already their's when they were alive, living and breathing as Christ rejectors.
So, in the case of these Pharisees, their damnation, was not their accusation, but it was their Christ Rejection...(in this world and in the world to come) ......same as it is for anyone who is lost, and is not a Believer in Yeshua.
So, they were blaspheming against the Lord, and against the HS< but this is just sin..........However, their damnation, that Christ is pronouncing against them, is based on their Rejection of Him......Their Unbelief, as its this that is causing their words. (Heart Unbelief) So, their words are a reflection of their unbelief, and its their unbelief that has them under God's judgment. John 3:36
So, if you are born again. you can't undo your salvation, because its not yours to undo... It is God's who did it for you, because its HIS, that Jesus earned and Gives.
Salvation is not of you, or me.. We dont do it. We can't save ourselves, and we can't keep ourselves saved.
Salvation is what GOD DID, its a Finished Work, through Christ, that He APPLIES TO YOU and ME. = Forgiveness of all sin..... No longer holding us accountable for them, in eternity, and does not impute them to us now. Romans 4:8
We are SINLESS, as if we never sinned, in God's perspective, because He has given us the Righteousness of Christ, and given our sin to Jesus, our sin bearer, who died for them all.
And a born again person says....>"but what about this sin".......and the answer is always the same no matter the sin, ... Final Answer:) Jesus died for that one, and all the rest.
Every sin, all sinning, has already been paid for by Jesus's sacrifice on the Cross, = His death.
"but what if i".... = ALREADY Paid for, on the Cross.
"but what if i".. = ALREADY Paid for, on the Cross.
"but what about this sin, its a fancy one, its rare".... = ALREADY PAID FOR, ON THE CROSS.
"SIN", ALL OF IT... has been dealt with on the Cross, and you are now a SAINT of God, a Child of God, and this for eternity, even tho you are not perfect. See, Jesus IS perfect, and His sacrifice was perfect, and God accepted His sacrifice, to accept you because of it.
God does not accept you because of YOU.....WHO ARE YOU? Who am I? Understand.....God ONLY accepted you, and accepts you still, and always will, if you are born again, = because of the Cross.
The blood and death of Jesus <> ALONE<> made you acceptable to God and keeps you acceptable to God.
I would like to offer prayers for my aunt. She is having a tough time with her psoriasis, she has been contemplating ending her life. She was alway such a happy, warm soul, always laughing.
She is 76, and has been my favorite aunt since childhood. She helped take care of my precocious daughter who is WAY too independent for her own good haha.