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Every sin is forgiven, ALL of them fully paid for by the Shed Blood.......Yours,mine,Judas,Hitler, Mother Theresa, ladies that had abortions,even O.J.Simpson........all that any of them had to do was to have faith in What Christ did for them at the Cross and ask  Him to save them.Imagine swimming around in a lake of fire knowing that the sins that put you  there were forgiven and your pride and foolishness prevented you from cashing in on what was already yours.You turned down a gift that was free.

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4 hours ago, PromisesPromises! said:

Hi John...  Yes, definitely for real!  Our sins are forgiven, blotted out, removed from us as far as the east is from the west, and remembered no more!  \o/

Acts 3:19... Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord.  

So rather than focusing on our guilt over past sins that have already been forgiven, we can press on and be refreshed by God's presence in His inspired word, in creation, in prayer, and in our daily lives--always looking forward.  

Most people take it that ALL sins are repeatedly forgiven or even fully paid for, some say that comes as a FREE gift. Seems some have a slight misunderstanding concerning this matter. 

Scripture says that all PAST sins have been fully remitted/paid for/wiped out, so we can start with a clean slate Rom 3v25.. Does that include PRESENT sins ? it does not say so....it particularly mentions PAST sins. So we come to the next stage Present sins....what happens there ? When we REPENT we are forgiven....does that wipe them out ? IF it does why are they not included in PAST sins ? because PRESENT-TIME sinning is being dealt with differently when we come to Christ, seeing we now have HIS HOLY Spirit-power to help us STOP ! Rom 6 we are now no longer to continue in sin, we need to STOP sinning....WHY ? does not FORGIVENESS do the job for us ? it sure does UNTIL we become sin-FREE.

Continual sinning and continual forgiveness is not the PERFECT state a Human is supposed to be in.....and GOD requires us to be/become PERFECT - FREE from sin....so we don't do it any more.

Look at the scripture quoted above Acts 3v19  REPENT therefore and be converted....TURN AWAY from transgressing the Law/Commandments of God, which is GOD's definition of SIN 1Joh 3v4. Doing the Will of GOD should/must be our priority if we want to be in HIS Kingdom Mat 7v21. There is no arguing with this ! 

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2 hours ago, Betha said:

Most people take it that ALL sins are repeatedly forgiven or even fully paid for, some say that comes as a FREE gift. Seems some have a slight misunderstanding concerning this matter. 

Scripture says that all PAST sins have been fully remitted/paid for/wiped out, so we can start with a clean slate Rom 3v25.. Does that include PRESENT sins ? it does not say so....it particularly mentions PAST sins. So we come to the next stage Present sins....what happens there ? When we REPENT we are forgiven....does that wipe them out ? IF it does why are they not included in PAST sins ? because PRESENT-TIME sinning is being dealt with differently when we come to Christ, seeing we now have HIS HOLY Spirit-power to help us STOP ! Rom 6 we are now no longer to continue in sin, we need to STOP sinning....WHY ? does not FORGIVENESS do the job for us ? it sure does UNTIL we become sin-FREE.

Continual sinning and continual forgiveness is not the PERFECT state a Human is supposed to be in.....and GOD requires us to be/become PERFECT - FREE from sin....so we don't do it any more.

Look at the scripture quoted above Acts 3v19  REPENT therefore and be converted....TURN AWAY from transgressing the Law/Commandments of God, which is GOD's definition of SIN 1Joh 3v4. Doing the Will of GOD should/must be our priority if we want to be in HIS Kingdom Mat 7v21. There is no arguing with this ! 

Hi Betha...  Paul enthusiastically explains God's plans for our past, present, and future in the first chapter of Ephesians.  :)   I trust in His plans and thank Him for grace.

Ephesians 1:3-14 New King James Version (NKJV)

Redemption in Christ

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace, by which He made us accepted in the Beloved.

In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace which He made to abound toward us in all wisdom and prudence, having made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His good pleasure which He purposed in Himself, 10 that in the dispensation of the fullness of the times He might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven and which are on earth—in Him. 11 In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will, 12 that we who first trusted in Christ should be to the praise of His glory.

13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.

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5 hours ago, missmuffet said:

Yes, not only does the Lord forgive He forgets our sins. The difficult part is forgiving ourselves. 

Sorry to again disagree with the conclusion, but I do. It is most easy to forgive one's self and indulge evil conscience. It gets easier and easier till really there is no conscience at all that bothers.

Further I add that my own conclusion is God does not forget anything. He remembers no more the sins of the repentant.  God tells us to do the same.  

Example for the saints in Christ Jesus is found  in church discipline procedures within Matthew 18; for those that are of the church when discipline goes so far as to have to oust a member of the body, they are not forgotten. If they later repent and want to be  with the church body, the body is to accept the person fully and never bring up the  past offense to anyone ever. That is not forgetting. It is greater than that. It is remembering no more, as one goes about their relationship with the person. Instead remembering to never ever count it against the individual. 

 To forget is an absence, to not remember anymore is a conscious active experience.

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10 hours ago, johnthebaptist said:

I think something we miss - or at least, I do, sometimes - is that the Lord means it when he says we are forgiven for our sins. When we repent, the Lord forgives us. Satan is busy trying to scare us with gloom and doom thoughts, in an effort to discourage us, but the Lord's forgiveness is for real.

I think what we miss is that the forgiveness is total...from ALL sin.

It's in the little words.

Cleansed from all unrighteousness.

As white as snow.

But I think many think that this is a partial cleansing...like we can never be sinless. But this is to doubt the power of the blood of Christ. There is a lot of doubt these days. God doesn't do things half-way. It's just that we tend to believe half-way. So then our salvation from sin is total. A work of God. Not based on human effort...therefore not tainted with sin. It is HIS work to cleanse us and to give us a walk in that cleansed place.

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6 hours ago, missmuffet said:

Yes, not only does the Lord forgive He forgets our sins. The difficult part is forgiving ourselves. 

It takes a little while, but then we are free.

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