Blood Bought 1953 Posted June 20, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.88 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted June 20, 2019 Most of them preach a false gospel of works..... “ Jesus saves.....But” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted June 20, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 772 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,932 Content Per Day: 3.07 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 11 hours ago, Sower said: Are the street preachers doing the 'good works' ? What about this street preacher............ Jesus Christ performed miracles by touching, healing, and transforming countless lives. These divine acts led people to him and opened their hearts. ... hearts to the message of salvation, and caused many to glorify God. These street preachers don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sower Posted June 20, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 14 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,247 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,850 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/09/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, R. Hartono said: Jesus Christ performed miracles by touching, healing, and transforming countless lives. These divine acts led people to him and opened their hearts. ... hearts to the message of salvation, and caused many to glorify God. These street preachers don't. Well Hartono, Jesus is sitting at the right hand of God for now, and He has given us the task to spread the good news. I ask you earlier what method YOU use to share the gospel. Do you ever preach Jesus Christ, and Him crucified to strangers? You said: ""These divine acts led people to him and opened their hearts. ... hearts to the message of salvation, and caused many to glorify God. These street preachers don't."" Just what is it that street preachers "don't do" Hartono? As I said, Jesus is in heaven. Man is not divine. He cannot touch as Jesus Christ and heal. You can ask, but Jesus does ALL the healing. I'm not sure your point. You sound mad at street preachers. I do not understand. They cannot make anybody glorify God, nor can they save anybody. Nor can you or I. Jesus saves. We can only share the gospel, sow the seeds. The soil determines the growth. I will ask again, how do you tell strangers about Jesus, and the good news?? Do you? "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted June 21, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 772 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,932 Content Per Day: 3.07 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) On 6/20/2019 at 11:56 AM, Sower said: On 6/20/2019 at 11:56 AM, Sower said: Do you ever preach Jesus Christ, and Him crucified to strangers? Our big family built two churches and three are pastors. You might not know there are friendly and respectable ways to make people come to church other than pointing your finger at people on the street uninvited and blast them with your forced lustful sermon. The picture below are all moslems (with veil) visiting churches, which make a mutual conversation and good relation instead of the picture of the street preachers who speaks lustfully to the wind/ one way communication. You only make the gap wider instead of making a lovely bridge to the other religions. You cannot win people without love and compassion, if you cannot give love but lustful sermon that will be no use. Not banning you anyway. Edited April 25, 2023 by R. Hartono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne222 Posted June 21, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 32 Topic Count: 475 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 6,557 Content Per Day: 2.28 Reputation: 7,635 Days Won: 9 Joined: 06/12/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted June 21, 2019 Ray Comfort preaches in the street. He has a good ministry. People dont read the bible. So it's good if someone tells them Jesus died for the sins of the world and was raise up again. And is coming to rule the world and to judge all men. And that salvation is through his name. If they hear that it will be good even if they mock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted June 21, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 772 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,932 Content Per Day: 3.07 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) On 6/19/2019 at 10:09 PM, Sower said: Are the street preachers doing the 'good works' ? What about this street preacher............ You cannot compare those street preachers to Jesus because they cannot heal people. But should we understand our limit it doesn't mean we cannot do something even bigger for the Lord as Jesus says so. Look at this classic example below, she is an old woman, she never pointed her finger and shouted her lustful sermon on the street but people are looking for her presence and praise the Lord. We'd better stop coming with our pointing finger and lustful sermons only, doesnt benefit people, religion is cheap for most people. People need love, love at the first place man oh man. I put a picture of most lustful street preachers below so you may compare what actually they are doing to Christianity. Do they came from barren world ? Who would guard and save the poor ? You feed the hungry with lustful sermon on the streets "Cry to God" ? Many people are already crying and they ask people to cry again to God. Funny. Edited May 11, 2023 by R. Hartono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted June 21, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.88 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted June 21, 2019 Too many of them are just hate- filled, Bible- ignorant, self- called fear mongers who wouldn’t know the Gospel Of Grace If it came up and bit them on the er, ah..........posterior. I did see a good one last year at a city fair....There was a pretty good crowd gathered around him and some derelict that was high on heroin and bragging about it kept getting right in the preacher’s face , screaming obscenities and repeatedly sticking his middle finger right in the guys face, laughing as if he were having the time of his life.And he was.He really enjoyed the crowd.The preacher just kinda ignored him.I don’t know how.The late, great Oliver Greene used to end his radio program with a prayer that always asked God to “ save the sinner closest to Hell”. For the last year or so I pray the same type of prayer for this fool junkie. I will not be surprised to meet him in Heaven some day.I think God is going to save this guy.All you brothers and sisters out there—- try to mention this guy in your prayers every now and then .Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted June 21, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 772 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,932 Content Per Day: 3.07 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 26 minutes ago, Wayne222 said: Ray Comfort preaches in the street. He has a good ministry. People dont read the bible. So it's good if someone tells them Jesus died for the sins of the world and was raise up again. And is coming to rule the world and to judge all men. And that salvation is through his name. If they hear that it will be good even if they mock. See my above reply regarding Mother Theresa, do you think you need to hunt people on the street if you ever do kindness to them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne222 Posted June 21, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 32 Topic Count: 475 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 6,557 Content Per Day: 2.28 Reputation: 7,635 Days Won: 9 Joined: 06/12/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted June 21, 2019 30 minutes ago, R. Hartono said: See my above reply regarding Mother Theresa, do you think you need to hunt people on the street if you ever do kindness to them ? What did you mean hunt people ? It's by the preaching of the gospel men are saved. Read Roman's it shows how beautiful are the feet of those who preach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted June 21, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,242 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, R. Hartono said: See my above reply regarding Mother Theresa, do you think you need to hunt people on the street if you ever do kindness to them ? Mother theresa for all the good she did also said the people did not need to know Jesus. I have never seen a street preacher say hateful things. I have seen them preach the gospel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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