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13 minutes ago, dhchristian said:

I saw this sort of false accusation go on for 8 years against OBAMA, and now here we are repeating it for Trump... Not one of those people who claimed to be Christians and said BHO is the Ac has apologized, and now it is coming from the other side by "leftist leaning" Christians. Quite frankly, It is disgusting. 

Criticize him on politics all you want, criticize him on his hairdo all you want "Orange man Bad"... But do not falsely accuse him based on false and misleading reporting from left leaning media people, Get both sides of the Story of his character. Ask Rudy Gulianni what he did when 911 happened. Ask some of the people that work for him. 

Actually there are a lot more than you think out there saying he is the AC. Do You understand the point of trolling? It is not just you it is working on... 

That is a logical fallacy of guilt by association. Just because people got it wrong on Obama is not evidence that it is wrong about Trump. That's like sayin' that because a person has been found innocent of murder, the next person indicted for the same crime must also be innocent because the prosecutors got it wrong the first time. Fallacious argument. There's is only one way to prove or disprove a claim -- look at the evidence. Mine's in my book, which I assume you haven't bothered to review. (Not that I'm asking.)

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Just now, Jonathan Dane said:

That is a logical fallacy of guilt by association. Just because people got it wrong on Obama is not evidence that it is wrong about Trump. That's like sayin' that because a person has been found innocent of murder, the next person indicted for the same crime must also be innocent because the prosecutors got it wrong the first time. Fallacious argument. There's is only one way to prove or disprove a claim -- look at the evidence. Mine's in my book, which I assume you haven't bothered to review. (Not that I'm asking.)

Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will:

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9 minutes ago, dhchristian said:

Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will:

You forgot one. "Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them." (Ephesians 5:11)

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5 hours ago, Jonathan Dane said:
5 hours ago, dhchristian said:

Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will:

You forgot one. "Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them." (Ephesians 5:11)

Yes, It is always easier to point the finger at someone else than to point the finger at yourself.

But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

 

Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

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I wonder who this one who sees himself as God is?

2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God

 

 

 

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This comment is an answer to the false charge against me of having a Leftist agenda. Please note that the ONLY reason I am focused on politics in this comment is to answer this calumny. Would sooner not do this, but occasion demands, so here goes.

Here's a sampling of this gentleman's quotes:

--  "As was Obama, and Clinton, and Carter. The media has Long been the propaganda arm of the leftists, Trump has nothing to do with exposing them, they were exposed a long time ago.Seeing as you praise them shows the true motive of this post which is agenda driven."
-- "Those people that pointed to BHO as the Antichrist are now full of hatred, because their theories have fallen on their face. The fact is, that this now has become the new political attack in this day and age on the WWW to discredit opposition, each side with their trolls and shills at work pushing the opinions of men."..."Keep politics out of the church, for then you become nothing more than a mouthpiece for one faction or the other." 
(Note: He went on to praise Trump's policies in detail. If he denies it, I'll throw down some quotes.)
-- "These are the words of someone who believes the propaganda of the media and their non stop assault on this man since being elected."
-- "Yet DJT is standing up to the globalists beast, Pretty much alone, and he is taking a beating for doing so by the media whom you hold as a beacon of truth" 
(notice the political statement that Trump is standing up to anti-globalism)  
-- "Your whole article is a political hit piece." (I did not write an article. That was an excerpt from my book.)    
-- "Your Post and your book is just another hit piece on someone you dislike, and thus you see as antichrist. Unfortunately this is the level that this culture has gotten to. We went through this for 8 years with BHO as well, and all the people pushing this theory had similar lists of proofs such as you have here.... I could post them all, but it would probably take a small book to post them all."
-- "Your motives have been exposed, and that is your prejudice against DJT. This post was not written to learn or to teach others but to dictate an opinion based on faulty assumptions. Plain and simple it is a "hit piece" and it is disgusting and unchristian." 
(Note: The accusation of "faulty assumptions" is in and of itself, a faulty assumption. He didn't read my book and there is no proof of "motive" in my excerpt.)  
-- "Why would I want to read a book, if the author is unable to honestly approach the topic and has a political agenda? That is like willfully falling for propaganda. I Just allowed you to make a show of your intellectual superiority and condescending heart towards us "little guys" on the internet."
-- "The hypocrisy with which you accuse me attacking your character, when your book is a hit piece on the character of a person you do not know personally and based off of what you have been told by Media sources who have an agenda to malign that person is laughable. These are just the facts of my assessment of this Post. If you cannot handle it, do not post stuff here for critique."
-- "Yes, go all the way back to OP, and my first comment regarding that as well to where Mr. Dane was "not talking about trump" but he really was talking about trump, and how he has a leftist agenda, but does not claim to have a leftist agenda, How he says he is not influenced by the media, yet he continual quotes their slanderous remarks and reporting." 
(In this entire thread, I do not recall a single instance of "quoting the media's slanderous remarks and reporting.)  
-- "I saw this sort of false accusation go on for 8 years against OBAMA, and now here we are repeating it for Trump... Not one of those people who claimed to be Christians and said BHO is the Ac has apologized, and now it is coming from the other side by "leftist leaning" Christians. Quite frankly, It is disgusting."
-- "Criticize him on politics all you want, criticize him on his hairdo all you want "Orange man Bad"... But do not falsely accuse him based on false and misleading reporting from left leaning media people"
 

(end of quotes)

Frankly, it is rather sad that I am having to answer these vindictive and malicious charges. In point of fact, politics is not my thing. I probably should care more about it than I do. Let me tell you about my supposed "Leftist" background. Here goes:

I became a follower of Jesus Christ at 7 years of age in 1972 while praying with my father after a church service. He was the pastor of a humble Baptist church. I raised my hand during prayer to accept Christ. I still remember the day vividly.

My dad's theology was dispensational -- right down the line. Solidly pre-trib. His favorite book to preach was Romans and to teach -- The Revelation. He's been in glory for nearly 25 years. I remember a conversation I had with him before he died. We were talking about the rise of the Antichrist. He told me we will not recognize him because his identity could only be known after the Rapture. I said to him, "But doesn't Daniel say 'The wise will understand.'" ?? 

He was passionate about the faith. Occasionally this got the best of him (but more often, somebody else). I remember one time after a couple of nice young Mormon gentlemen left our house. I looked over at my dad and said, "I hope they didn't wet themselves." But Dad was a bold person with a sensitive heart. I remember one time hanging out with him and the great prophetic teacher, Dave Breeze after a tent crusade. Dad was probably having some disagreements with someone regarding eschatology. He looked over and said, "Hey Dave, come straighten this guy out." LOL Fun memories. I was maybe 12 at the time. Mom and Dad would some times take us to perform on Grandpa and Grandma's 6:00 A.M. live Christian radio show. Grandpa was head over what would have been considered a mega church at the time and ran an FM and AM Christian radio station. (This is turning into my life story -- moving on.)

My understanding of Scripture has not changed much since being under Dad's influence. That said, a few years back I was a member of a solidly reformed church for over a decade. I was immersed in the doctrines of Sovereign Grace. I am a strong believer in free will -- if by that you mean the free will of God to choose whom he chooses. Salvation is a gift of the grace of God. I reject "cheap grace." Salvation is a super natural work of the Holy Spirit Who resides in every believer. Therefore, that person will undergo change -- sanctification -- at some level. If they do not over a stretch of years and continue to blatantly and publicly practice unrepentant sin, it is fair to question whether they are truly born again.

I follow the historical-grammatical method of biblical interpretation. I read the Bible "plainly." The Bible says what it means and means what it says. (Yes, I allow for symbolism and figures of speech, e.g. hyperbole, etc.) I believe in the saying, "Never read a verse." Scripture must be studied in its grammatical and historical context. Who's speaking? To whom are they speaking? Etc. 

I believe in six literal days of Creation. I am an old-earther yet reject evolution. (Yeah, it's possible.) I believe the miracles in the Bible literally happened as they are described in real space/time history. Noah built an ark. Jonah was swallowed by a fish. Moses talked to a Burning Bush and split the Red Sea. God stopped the sun. A donkey really talked. Three men with weird names really stood in a fiery furnace. Jesus walked on water, fed 5000 and raised bodily from the dead. He is truly the Eternal Son of God, and since the incarnation, fully Man. The Holy Spirit is a person and is God. I could go on and on. Jesus is Coming again to judge mankind and to take His rightful place as King in Jerusalem to preside over an overhauled earth for 1000 years. There is a literal and eternal Heaven and Hell. In short, I adhere to the orthodox teachings of the Christian faith as represented in Scripture and the creeds of the Church. 

The insight I have on the Antichrist is neither because I'm an amazing theological scholar, nor because I am some prophet on par with Scripture. I do believe God has gifted me with a unique understanding of the Scripture - not because I hold some "holier than thou" status, but simply because God has been abundantly gracious with me.

My political affiliation -- 

In 1984 I voted for Ronald Reagan (On a side-note, I have personally performed for President Ronald and Nancy Reagan on multiple occasions, one of which was the opening ceremonies of the 1984 Summer Olympic Games. I was 18 years old at the time. I still perform at the Reagan Library on a yearly basis for Republican events.)
In 1988 I voted for George H.W. Bush.
In 1992 I voted for a very wealthy anti-establishment business outsider, Ross Perot.
In 1996, I voted for Bob Dole, in whom I believe would have made a great president. (Although a little too "insider" for my taste, he was an honorable man -- something I crave to see again.)
In 2000 & 2004 I voted for George W. Bush.
In 2008, I voted for Mitt Romney. Although perhaps more unpredictable than Dole, he too would have made a fine president.
In 2012, I voted for John McCain, although his campaign did little to inspire me.
In 2016 I voted for everything on the ballot, minus the president. I live in California. The presidential results are a pretty sure thing out here, with or without my vote.

I have never once voted for or financially supported a Democrat in my entire life, much less a Socialist or Leftist. Typically, I vote straight down the Republican ticket. If I've done my homework and actually researched the Propositions, I do not stay married to a ticket on a singular proposition. I vote with my brain. I am solidly Conservative on a vast majority of issues. It is fair to say that I am more conservative than most Republicans. Frankly, I don't recognize the Republican Party anymore. It died on May 3rd, 2016, the day Barnum & Bailey Circus' elephants gave their last performance and the Elephant Party named the greatest ringmaster performer in history as its presumptive nominee.

In this entire thread, there is not one mention of a Democrat (certainly no positive one). On my Rise of the Little Horn Facebook page, in all of my some 300 posts, there is not one comment of support for any Democrat Congressperson or policy. NOT ONE. I am solidly pro-life, pro-2nd Amendment, pro-smaller government, pro-liberty, pro-defense, pro-protection for churches, and to the extent he favors that, I am pro-Trump in that sense. He is doing some "incredible" things for our nation. No argument from me. But at what cost? Fundamentally, he is systematically denigrating decency, compassion, empathy, affection, respect, sacrifice, selflessness, goodness, purity, honor and the archetype of all of it -- TRUTH. If we loose those things, the good things Trump is doing will matter little. The battle of the end times is ultimately a battle for truth. Hence Pilate's question, "What is truth?" In particular, the end time battle will be a battle of names. 

We are taught that the Falling Away (Apostasy) is a falling away from the faith. And and it may include that. But the apostasia can also be a falling away by means of a rebellion or revolt. I now have come to believe the apostasia is far far more fundamental than a falling away from faith or from order due to a rebellion. IT IS A FALLING AWAY FROM TRUTH ITSELF. Words will lose there meaning as actions lose their vulnerability to accountability, i.e. when actions have no consequences. 

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have arrived. The Antichrist is anti-Christ because he is anti-Truth. He's anti-Truth because he is anti-Word. He is anti-Word because he is anti-Logos (which brings us back to anti-Christ). The AC is THE LIE. He is the man of deception. He plays the trick. He always trumps. 

I get asked, "Do you hate Donald Trump?" In Trump's world, hate has no meaning. I believe that. Hate and love is not something Trump "feels." It's something he "does" to move pieces around his game board. Trump has been quoted many times, "It's all a game." He is either moving people towards or away from him. It's all for power, to extend himself forward. That's why Trump can absolutely love a person or group one day and absolutely hate them the next. Transition to hate is easy for Trump because there was no genuine love to begin with. That's why Trump does not show empathy. He does not have it within him. Love can be faked. Empathy, not so much. That is because love is often reciprocated. Empathy is not. Do I believe this because I am some closet Leftist? That's laughable. Au contraire! I say it because it's true.

It's not too terribly difficult to prove my book and posts are not driven by some secret Leftist ideology. Such a system is anathema to me. It is clear that I am a genuine conservative and  follower of Jesus Christ - a Christian. This is evident from my posts and my book. Leftists are typically Marxist and Atheist. Karl Marx was solidly Atheist. No Leftist holds Scripture in such high regard as do I. And certainly they would never adhere to the plain reading of the Bible. No Leftist is looking for the Second Coming. And no Leftist would give ANY credence to a literal end-times Antichrist. Leftism and genuine Christianity go together like oil and water. If one describes themselves as a "Leftist Christian," I can guarantee they espouse some form of Humanism, not Christianity. Can one be a Democrat and a Christian? Sure. But as I have shown from my background, I am not a Democrat. Never have been. Never will be.

Has this person read my book before unrighteously judging me? If he had, he would have read the following on page 10 of Rise of the Little Horn:

Even before Trump, some believed President Barack Obama to be the Antichrist. I never bought into this. He falls short of the mark in terms of very basic characteristics and particulars that will be addressed as this book progresses. Nevertheless, he fulfilled an essential place in God’s program. His Leftist agenda left many Americans feeling like their beloved country was heading in a fully un-American direction. Obama brought change, but many did not want that kind of change. Socialist ideas, previously only at home in college campus life, had taken root in our culture, and America was heading the way of a crumbling Europe. Judeo-Christian principles were being replaced by Marxist ideology.

Republicans faced two major foes: Progressivist indoctrination in our schools and illegal immigration. The Republican Party was quickly becoming the old white-man’s party. The radical 60’s Baby-Boomers were now grandparents with two generations before them who lacked the solid Christian influence from which previous generations had benefited. Conservatives were being marginalized. Whites in Los Angeles were now the minority. Movements like the Tea Party arose to try to “take back” the country they felt was being ripped from their grasp. Then, Congress passed Obamacare, which, for many, was the last straw. In various elections, Republicans ran on overturning this legislation, but ultimately, nothing got done. Before long, distrust of those in Washington rose to a fever pitch. Politicians became associated with elitist crooks. Meanwhile, the Supreme Court gave us the legalization of same-sex marriage. The country was adrift in the current of Socialism. Between Barak Obama’s first appointment to office and the end of his second term, the nation had morphed from one that was divided, to one with a massive chasm running between its citizenry. Yes…he gave us change, indeed.

"I see a man in his first day in office sowing seed on the White House lawn. Eight years later, that soil would give rise to a tyrant."

Progressive thought turned out to be the child of postmodernism. Gone was the concept of absolute truth. Gone were universal principles and morals, as well as critical thinking―even language lost its meaning. Words ceased conveying their classical meanings and were deemed, unsafe. Facts were replaced with feelings. Right and wrong were characterized as preferences. Character was replaced with celebrity; substantive policy with empty rhetoric; battle of ideas with personal attacks; integrity with deception; thoughtful argument with emotive trigger words.

We no longer wanted real leaders. They just let us down and were, frankly...boring. We just wanted a show―Entertain us! In place of a Senator, we opted for a Gladiator with a big sword―It was 5th century Rome all over again, and Gladiator Trump was suited up and ready for battle. The Left preached to us that judging was out and tolerance and acceptance were in. And so we became a thoughtless nation, tolerant of anything. We lost our radar. And underneath that radar crept in something evil.

(end of excerpt) 

 
Does that sound like my book is a Leftist political hit piece? Hardly. I could copiously quote more, but what's the point?

One final point. I started writing my book in April of 2016 and was 90% finished by the following July. Why is this significant? For starters, few thought that Trump would actually win. But more importantly, the liberal news media -- that this slanderous person claims I was so influenced by --were not yet maliciously attacking Trump. Why? BECAUSE IT WAS DURING THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES!! The media were salivating at the possibility that Trump would become the presumptive Republican nominee. According to the polling at that time, TRUMP WAS THE ONLY ONE OF THE REPUBLICAN FRONT-RUNNERS THAT HILLARY COULD BEAT!!! They all had their fingers crossed IN FAVOR OF TRUMP. It was only AFTER he became the nominee that the media really turned on him. By such time, my book was already written.
 
Does the person that slandered me truly believe I am a Leftist? Or that my piece was a Leftist hit piece? If he does, he knows little about Christianity versus Leftism. Truth be told, he is fully aware and chose to falsely witness against me. The malignant charge was also done in hypocrisy. He told me to keep politics out and later posted a list of Trump's policies he favored. How many pro liberal/democratic policies did I post? ZERO.

TRUE -- Obama was targeted by over zealous, hateful, and biblically ignorant Christians because of his Leftist politics, iconic charismatic appeal (based on the faulty idea that the AC is charismatic) and in some instances, because he was black. In short, he was attacked because he was a political threat. The supposed biblical parallels they came up will are paltry in comparison to Trump. Do people like myself claim Trump is the AC because we are "Leftist Christians?" Absolutely 100% false. Most all of us are genuine conservative born-again believers. (Yes, non-Christians throw the word "antichrist" around, but in no meaningful way.) With Obama, the political motive was evident. As I have shown, no motive is evident for myself -- which greatly strengthens my claim. That's why the slanderous charge was made to begin with -- to deligitimize and dismiss my claim, out of hand. It allows my opponents to avoid actually examining the CONTENT of my post -- which nobody thus far on this thread has done.

I'll end with one of his quotes:
 
"I saw this sort of false accusation go on for 8 years against OBAMA, and now here we are repeating it for Trump... Not one of those people who claimed to be Christians and said BHO is the Ac has apologized"

Now that I have shown this malignant charge to be false, should I hold my breath that an apology will be forthcoming? I will not. Instead, I will breathe easy knowing that when you stand on the side of truth, truth eventually triumphs.
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5 hours ago, Jonathan Dane said:

Does that sound like my book is a Leftist political hit piece?

Yes, It most certainly does. 

5 hours ago, Jonathan Dane said:

I have never once voted for or financially supported a Democrat in my entire life, much less a Socialist or Leftist. Typically, I vote straight down the Republican ticket. If I've done my homework and actually researched the Propositions, I do not stay married to a ticket on a singular proposition. I vote with my brain. I am solidly Conservative on a vast majority of issues. It is fair to say that I am more conservative than most Republicans. Frankly, I don't recognize the Republican Party anymore. It died on May 3rd, 2016, the day Barnum & Bailey Circus' elephants gave their last performance and the Elephant Party named the greatest ringmaster performer in history as its presumptive nominee.

This is known as a Shill attack. A Globalist, pretending to be a conservative, thus making the attack more credible because it comes from Within. Conservatism, First and foremost is pro national sovereignty and Anti Globalism.... Why? Because God created the Nations, and When Nimrod tried to control and unify the World at the Time under his tower of Power ( a forerunner to the Antichrist), In direct violation of God's commandment to spread across the earth, God chose to confuse the language. Shills like this have always been within the faithful of the church, and appear as one of us, even having eloquence of speech To convince us. It is shills like this that have led the Republican Party to the globalist nightmare that it was under Bush Junior. It is shills like this that are being exposed and drained from the swamp, which is both republican and democrat. It is shills like this in the churches themselves that lead the church into heresy as well... Remember, the goal of a shill is to make you think they are one of you, just Like the Synogogue of Satan who claim to be Jews but are not. Then when it is time to spring the trap, they do so appearing as one of us to make this attack credible.

Trump won, not because he was a republican, But because he was an anti-globalist. The Globalists were hitting him right from the outset of his announcement for the presidency, right when JD was writing his book. It has been a nonstop assault against Trump from both parties. Globalism is the antichrist system, and that is what JD does not want the readers to understand. As Long as DJT is anti-globalist, He cannot be the Antichrist figure. The Minute he tries to reinstate globalism is when he will lose all his support. The Silent majority of true Believers in this country are the One's that voted him into office, That silent majority is Anti-Globalist.

JD has presented his case, and I have presented mine throughout this commentary. I Am content to let the readers decide, JD is not, and instead wants to influence your opinion which he is very Good at. I Have nothing to gain, he has everything to gain. I Have no book to promote, he has a book to promote. I Point people to Christ and the cross, he points people to himself and his book. I Invite all who read this to read his comment above this, and instead of looking at what he said, Look at what he did not say, and then you will see his deception, and where his loyalties lay.

I will give you an example of his manipulation.

5 hours ago, Jonathan Dane said:

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have arrived. The Antichrist is anti-Christ because he is anti-Truth. He's anti-Truth because he is anti-Word. He is anti-Word because he is anti-Logos (which brings us back to anti-Christ). The AC is THE LIE. He is the man of deception. He plays the trick. He always trumps. 

What he is doing in this example is saying without saying it, that anti-globalism is anti-truth, and antichrist, Which is exactly the opposite of what the Word of God says. This is just the tip of the iceberg of his deception, And I invite all to do their own careful research. Do not just accept what I say at face value, but do the research yourself. I Would rather that you discover the Truth yourself, than me dictate it to you.

24  For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before. (Matthew 24:24)

God Bless.

  

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39 minutes ago, dhchristian said:

Yes, It most certainly does. 

This is known as a Shill attack. A Globalist, pretending to be a conservative, thus making the attack more credible because it comes from Within. Conservatism, First and foremost is pro national sovereignty and Anti Globalism.... Why? Because God created the Nations, and When Nimrod tried to control and unify the World at the Time under his tower of Power ( a forerunner to the Antichrist), In direct violation of God's commandment to spread across the earth, God chose to confuse the language. Shills like this have always been within the faithful of the church, and appear as one of us, even having eloquence of speech To convince us. It is shills like this that have led the Republican Party to the globalist nightmare that it was under Bush Junior. It is shills like this that are being exposed and drained from the swamp, which is both republican and democrat. It is shills like this in the churches themselves that lead the church into heresy as well... Remember, the goal of a shill is to make you think they are one of you, just Like the Synogogue of Satan who claim to be Jews but are not. Then when it is time to spring the trap, they do so appearing as one of us to make this attack credible.

Trump won, not because he was a republican, But because he was an anti-globalist. The Globalists were hitting him right from the outset of his announcement for the presidency, right when JD was writing his book. It has been a nonstop assault against Trump from both parties. Globalism is the antichrist system, and that is what JD does not want the readers to understand. As Long as DJT is anti-globalist, He cannot be the Antichrist figure. The Minute he tries to reinstate globalism is when he will lose all his support. The Silent majority of true Believers in this country are the One's that voted him into office, That silent majority is Anti-Globalist.

JD has presented his case, and I have presented mine throughout this commentary. I Am content to let the readers decide, JD is not, and instead wants to influence your opinion which he is very Good at. I Have nothing to gain, he has everything to gain. I Have no book to promote, he has a book to promote. I Point people to Christ and the cross, he points people to himself and his book. I Invite all who read this to read his comment above this, and instead of looking at what he said, Look at what he did not say, and then you will see his deception, and where his loyalties lay.

I will give you an example of his manipulation.

What he is doing in this example is saying without saying it, that anti-globalism is anti-truth, and antichrist, Which is exactly the opposite of what the Word of God says. This is just the tip of the iceberg of his deception, And I invite all to do their own careful research. Do not just accept what I say at face value, but do the research yourself. I Would rather that you discover the Truth yourself, than me dictate it to you.

24  For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before. (Matthew 24:24)

God Bless.

  

And you thought that was for you. Thank you.

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7 hours ago, Jonathan Dane said:

And you thought that was for you. Thank you.

Yup, Seeing as you quoted Me at the outset..... 

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2 hours ago, dhchristian said:

Yup, Seeing as you quoted Me at the outset..... 

You have gone from calling me a Leftist to now ranting on about me being some kind of secret globalist spy in the midst of a Shill attack. (I must confess, that's a new one. I wouldn't have previously known what a Shill was. Interesting.)

Question: Do you hear yourself? Seriously, stop a moment and try to step away from whatever it is that has such a powerful hold on you and just re-read your reply over again. Your kind of scary rhetoric with what appears to be paranoid-laced language, as if my entire life is one big lie for the sake of some kind of covert globalist spy operation, is really bizarre "off the reservation" stuff, and the kind of almost hypnotic delusion I would expect from some under the grips of a powerful force. I suppose these are the times in which we live. Forgive me for making this personal. But honestly, I am personally (and spiritually) concerned for you.

I pray for you, dear brother, that the scales would fall from your eyes, so that you may see (and think) clearly.

Speaking of clearly, this conversation has now degrading to you, not only accusing me of lying, but of making up my life testimony. This is really awful stuff.

I've talked about names. I'll end with the definition of mine. Like Daniel, Dane means, "God is my Judge." May the Lord be the Judge between me and you. 

You have the last word, if you choose. (No doubt, you will.)

By the way,  I meant what I said. That comment wasn't for you, it was for others with eyes to see. As scary as your reply was, I expected you'd reply in the manner in which you did. May the readers choose between our fruit offerings. 

Remember those Christians that thought Obama was the AC in whom you pointed out are now so full of hate? Re-read over that 2nd to last comment of yours. Who's the one filled with hate now? In the words of prophet Nathan, "You are the man."

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