Popular Post Neighbor Posted June 30, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 951 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,563 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,044 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2019 Quoting an excerpt of the introduction to the Book The Bible Jesus Read by Dr. Thomas McCall, and Zola Levitt, two teachers I have found creditable over the years: "Obviously the Old testament was the Bible Jesus read. The New testament was gradually produced after the time of Christ, so that the Messiah, His disciples, and apostles, as well as all of the original Christin churches initially used only what we cll the Old testament as their Bible. All of their doctrines, all of their evangelism,and all of their practices in daily life came from the Hebrew Scriptures. Christianity was born and bred in the old Testament." Jesus knew and loved the old testament above al other books. it was constantly on His mind and the magnificent prophecies and exciting sagas rang through all of His teaching. He quoted it profusely and, in fact, in all of His recorded lessons, he never quited any other book. The Old testament was the continuous guide of His own life, and was understood by Him to express the very will of God. He never questioned its truthfulness and He considered every word-even every "jot and title" to be of eternal significance. The personalities of the Old Testament were very real to Jesus as the people of his own genration, whether they lived four hundred years or four thousand years before. Oddly, followers of Jesus today-those who seek to walk in His very footsteps-do not appear to appreciate the Old Testament nearly as much as He did. To many Christians today, and many Jews as well, the Old Testament is an outmoded, cryptic, closed book. Many regard it as a collection of antiquated and superseded doctrines, events, and personalities. At worst th eold Testament has been regarded as confusing and even at variance to authentic Christian teaching. But rightly understood, the Old testament is the foundation upon which the great truths of the New testament rest." .... From the introduction to the book The Bible Jesus Read by Dr. Thomas McCall and Zola Levitt 4 2 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted June 30, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,605 Content Per Day: 3.97 Reputation: 7,795 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Online Share Posted June 30, 2019 Since Yeshua is the author of the Tanach, it is understandable that He read this and other books. Qumran gave us an idea of what other writings were available at the time and many are quoted almost word for word by the apostles. Some of the Qumran commentaries are similar in form to John the Baptists ideas and words and it is quite possible he was acquainted with the Qumran scribes who were very conservative and considered that the Pharisees had lost the plot. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Robert.A Posted June 30, 2019 Group: Junior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 111 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 68 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/16/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/20/1966 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2019 WE need the old and the new to fully understand the plan of God. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortangel Posted June 30, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 839 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 634 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted June 30, 2019 thank you for mentioning this book to us I've seen it on the libiary shelf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted June 30, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 951 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,563 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,044 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Author Share Posted June 30, 2019 3 hours ago, shortangel said: thank you for mentioning this book to us I've seen it on the libiary shelf Hi I recall there being several books with the same title! This is by Dr. Thomas S. McCall and Zola Levitt. I purchased it some many years ago at the Levitt Ministries website. Maybe it is at stores or online today. - I just looked. Yes it is available, evidently now published by a different publisher with a new cover, and it is also on Kindle and ibook, perhaps elsewhere as well. But make sure of the authors if looking for this particular book. I have used mine and marked it up pretty heavily over the years. I do so appreciate Dr. McCall and "my" ( and everyone's) friend Zola. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis1209 Posted June 30, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 347 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,460 Content Per Day: 2.70 Reputation: 5,375 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/27/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted June 30, 2019 I've always been curious as to; from what source Jesus (and the Apostles) quoted scripture from? Did they have personal copies of some of the scrolls? Doubtful because you had to be rich to be able to afford a copy of a scroll. I concluded that they learned and memorized much of it from studying it in the Synagogue. Unless it's used interchangeably by the translators, it's interesting they translated it "book" instead of "scroll" like many other places. Luke 4:17 (KJV) And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written, Luke 4:20 (KJV) And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him. My question would be; were these scrolls in the Synagogue copies of the originals, or copies from the Septuagint transcribed from copies in about 285 B.C.? Who had the originals and when and how were they lost? Anyway, considering the whole Bible is one Book and tells us the complete story; I like a definition below: The new is in the old concealed; the old is in the new revealed. ~Augustine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted July 9, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 9, 2019 On 6/30/2019 at 3:43 AM, Neighbor said: Oddly, followers of Jesus today-those who seek to walk in His very footsteps-do not appear to appreciate the Old Testament nearly as much as He did. "oddly" ? Jesus revealed the religious leaders were more interested in man's tradition than in the Creator's Word. Today the same - religious leaders are more interested in myths and fables and other writings than in the Creator's Word, and they lead multitudes to destruction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pekoudah Posted July 10, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 302 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 624 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/04/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) They say that ..."the The New Testament is in the Old Testament concealed...and the Old Testament is in the New Testament revealed. " I like that. God is building us up level by level. From the ground floor of obscure sounding prophecies given to a few in the OT...to the upper room of visitation from God for all in the NT. From righteousness to holiness. From what a man can do by his own obedience and righteousness to the laws of God...to an entrance into Christ in order to take on HIS obedience and His righteousness by a new and living way which fulfills the law...in us! The Old Testament remains the place where we learn what righteousness is. We learn how God has laid out His holy requirements. The New Testament reveals the power of God (grace) in order to fulfill those requirements. But we need both Testaments to make up the godly equation. What's the point of having the answer if we don't understand the question? Edited July 10, 2019 by Pekoudah 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorderCowboy Posted July 10, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 213 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 303 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/05/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2019 The Old Testament is in the New Testament, revealed. The New Testament is in the Old testament concealed. Something My Pastor told us in men's bible study once. Just my to bits, JJ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takoda Posted July 10, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 137 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 52 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/11/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/27/1943 Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) On 7/10/2019 at 1:03 PM, BorderCowboy said: The Old Testament is in the New Testament, revealed. The New Testament is in the Old testament concealed. Something My Pastor told us in men's bible study once. Just my to bits, JJ The story of Jesus is not history prophesied but rather is prophesy historicized. Our gospels, particularly the synoptic gospels were written in the Hebrew/Jewish literary tradition of "haggadic midrash" in which old stories were quite deliberately recycled into the new to establish the continuity of God's connection to his people. Edited July 11, 2019 by Takoda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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