plo1988 Posted July 6, 2019 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 1 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 115 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 37 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/03/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) I might be having trouble with this. Edited July 6, 2019 by LeeGreenForest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted July 6, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.31 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, LeeGreenForest said: I might be having trouble with this. Perhaps some things can't be described with words. You just have to do it. This might be one of those things. I will say that the Lord solves all my problems for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted July 6, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.31 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted July 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, Flowersun said: The Lord solves all of your problems ....don't you do anything to help solve them? I have to follow the Lord's instructions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted July 6, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.31 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Flowersun said: How does the Lord instruct you,if I may ask? i don't really understand how he can solve all of our problems...without us doing our bit. Paul tells us to pray constantly (1 Thess 5:17). Over a period of time, when we do that, we get to know the Lord. We start to understand what he is saying t us. Remember that praying doesn't just involve us speaking to the Lord, but also, listening to what the Lord is saying to us. And he will instruct us how to deal with our problems, one at a time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted July 6, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,157 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,444 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted July 6, 2019 the beat goes on to the tune of precept upon precept line upon line here a little there a little... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted July 6, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,299 Content Per Day: 1.72 Reputation: 1,685 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, LeeGreenForest said: I might be having trouble with this. Why? What evidence do youhave that there is no God? Or that God cannot be trusted? It is a question of trust, do you trust your mobile/PC etc to work, if so why do you trust it to work? "Jesus’ death as a consequence of crucifixion is indisputable." Gert Lüdemann "That he was crucified is as sure as anything historical can ever be." J.D. Crossan "The passion of Jesus is part of history." Geza Vermes Jesus’ death by crucifixion is "historically certain". Pinchas Lapide "The single most solid fact about Jesus’ life is his death: he was executed by the Roman prefect Pilate, on or around Passover, in the manner Rome reserved particularly for political insurrectionists, namely, crucifixion." Paula Fredriksen "The support for the mode of his death, its agents, and perhaps its co-agents, is overwhelming: Jesus faced a trial before his death, was condemned, and was executed by crucifixion." L.T. Johnson "One of the most certain facts of history is that Jesus was crucified on orders of the Roman prefect of Judea, Ponitus Pilate." Bart Ehrman http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2009/03/jesus-death-by-crucifixion-litmus-test.html That’s 7 famous historians: 3 atheists, 3 Jews and 1 moderate Catholic. The atheists, Ludemann, Crossan and Ehrman, have all debated against the resurrection of Jesus with William Lane Craig. Johnson is the moderate Catholic, the rest are Jewish historians. The Koran was written in the 7th century. That is why no professional historian accepts the Koran as more authoritative than the many earlier Christian and non-Christian sources for the crucifixion story. Many of the sources for the crucifixion are dated to the 1st century. It’s not faith. It’s history If Christianity is historical facts what problems do you have trusting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOrangeCat Posted July 7, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 57 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,403 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 1,824 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/24/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted July 7, 2019 Sometimes it starts as an act of faith. You jump and trust God to catch you. As you experience more of God working in your life it becomes easier to believe a lot of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted July 7, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,646 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,832 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, LeeGreenForest said: I might be having trouble with this. Belief in this life is subject to vulnerability. We [believed] in Santa Claus, or the stork, or the Easter Bunny at one time until the truth proved them wrong. There is in humanity a gullibility prone for deception. And a disconnect. Burned by enough Easter Bunny beliefs proven wrong and people can get thick hides... unwilling to believe in anything. This is why God went about painstakingly proving his truth to humanity. He only asks that we believe him. We get all caught up into what belief / faith is and isn't which we over analyze to the point of abandon... "Ah, ferget it!" Believe in or believe on are Old English ways of saying believe. Believe God. It's not hard. Just believe him. The reassuring proof follows. He wants us to put all things to the test... of scripture (which proves all things). Then trust follows. Trust God. Simple. Pastor Chuck Smith founder of Calvary Chapels worldwide once said, "When asked how to be a better preacher I replied, learn to teach 2nd Graders and you'll do well." God is as complex as it takes for only God to understand... and yet his truths are as simple as that of a child's understanding. Simple. Think of the Gospel it self. Simple. Edited July 7, 2019 by JohnD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted July 7, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 7, 2019 We ask Jesus Christ into our heart and into our mind. We put away the old sin nature which all humans have. We then are obedient to God and we live a life that is pleasing to God. God can replace the evil in our heart for good if we will let Him. We have to leave what is in this world and turn to God. Satan is the prince of this world and he does not want to give you up. He wants to put you on the wrong path. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostler Posted July 7, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 25 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,679 Content Per Day: 1.39 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 16 Joined: 01/19/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted July 7, 2019 On 7/6/2019 at 10:35 AM, Flowersun said: Well,he's having a job with me at the moment...because I'm stubborn ,don't always want to listen...so there.LOL. join the club I'm much better off than I used to be, thanks to Him. But I'm still the biggest hurdle to my continued sanctification I face....and not by a little. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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