Blood Bought 1953 Posted July 20, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.89 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 20, 2019 The Holy Spirit is our “helper” , not our “ doer”. We are free to ignore the promptings of the Holy Spirit.If we choose to be unwise in that regard, WE are the ones that will pay the price. “Anything That begins in anger ,ends in shame” Using your logic, a Believer could murder somebody and say , “ Hey, don’t blame me! The Holy Spirit had not seen fit to display to me that murder was a bad thing”. It’s ridiculous on its face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silviawang Posted July 20, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 128 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 825 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 153 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted July 20, 2019 27 minutes ago, Blood Bought 1953 said: Of course—- every sin was paid for on the Cross..... “ Behold the Lamb Of God, Who takes away the sins of the World.....” So Hitler, Stalin, Bin Laden........ Are all been forgiven??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted July 20, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.89 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, pg4Him said: What about the sin of not believing in Jesus? That’s what was really being asked. Will Jesus allow lifelong atheists into heaven on the basis that ‘every sin’ was forgiven on the cross? Or just the sins under the blood? The sin of unbelief ,as is every other sin, is under the Blood.The unbeliever,by very definition will not turn to God in order to be a beneficiary of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pg4Him Posted July 20, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 347 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 370 Days Won: 2 Joined: 08/20/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted July 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Blood Bought 1953 said: The Holy Spirit is our “helper” , not our “ doer”. We are free to ignore the promptings of the Holy Spirit.If we choose to be unwise in that regard, WE are the ones that will pay the price. “Anything That begins in anger ,ends in shame” Using your logic, a Believer could murder somebody and say , “ Hey, don’t blame me! The Holy Spirit had not seen fit to display to me that murder was a bad thing”. It’s ridiculous on its face. Wait, so now we have to choose to display good fruits in keeping with our faith? When did that happen? I thought good works were evidence of a change we have no power to control. Do you suddenly believe Christians must endeavor to choose to obey the Holy Spirit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted July 20, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,763 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 12,161 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted July 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Blood Bought 1953 said: The Holy Spirit is our “helper” , not our “ doer”. We are free to ignore the promptings of the Holy Spirit.If we choose to be unwise in that regard, WE are the ones that will pay the price. “Anything That begins in anger ,ends in shame” Using your logic, a Believer could murder somebody and say , “ Hey, don’t blame me! The Holy Spirit had not seen fit to display to me that murder was a bad thing”. It’s ridiculous on its face. Our kids used to say when they were small that the wind made them do things which were not allowed .. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted July 20, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,763 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 12,161 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted July 20, 2019 Just now, pg4Him said: Wait, so now we have to choose to display good fruits in keeping with our faith? When did that happen? I thought good works were evidence of a change we have no power to control. Do you suddenly believe Christians must endeavor to choose to obey the Holy Spirit? Please let’s not turn this thread in OSAS? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pg4Him Posted July 20, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 347 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 370 Days Won: 2 Joined: 08/20/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted July 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Blood Bought 1953 said: The sin of unbelief ,as is every other sin, is under the Blood.The unbeliever,by very definition will not turn to God in order to be a beneficiary of it. If people are capable of dying in unforgiven sin because they didn’t turn to God, it means their sin was not forgiven, which means not “every sin of the world” is forgiven... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pg4Him Posted July 20, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 347 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 370 Days Won: 2 Joined: 08/20/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted July 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, angels4u said: Please let’s not turn this thread in OSAS? OK sister I will let it go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted July 20, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.89 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 minute ago, silviawang said: So Hitler, Stalin, Bin Laden........ Are all been forgiven??? They could have been — even Judas.And let’s not leave out Pol Pot, he’s usually included on these lists.The price for their sins was fully paid.All they had to do was proclaim from the heart.....Lord Jesus, have mercy on me , a sinner...... God said, “Turn to me and I will turn to you”..... Alas, none of these evil men turned to God ( repentance) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted July 20, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,763 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 12,161 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 minute ago, pg4Him said: If people are capable of dying in unforgiven sin because they didn’t turn to God, it means their sin was not forgiven, which means not “every sin of the world” is forgiven... If they are not His, then they will be lost.Really only God knows our hearts and pretending to be a Christian will get a person nowhere,too many people have a form of religion but don’t know the power of the cross. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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