101G Posted July 19, 2019 Group: Non-Trinitarian Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 187 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 38 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/13/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 minute ago, missmuffet said: Do you believe in the Holy Trinity? No, but I am a "Diversified Oneness" who strictly believes in Deuteronomy 6:4, and holds to the holy teaching of the Lord Jesus. PICJAG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101G Posted July 19, 2019 Group: Non-Trinitarian Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 187 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 38 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/13/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, johnthebaptist said: I believe God is all three members of the Trinity. He is the Father. I believe he decided to come to earth as a human being, so he became Jesus. I believe when he communicates with us, he is the Holy Spirit. this is an interesting point of view. PICJAG. Edited July 19, 2019 by 101G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101G Posted July 19, 2019 Group: Non-Trinitarian Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 187 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 38 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/13/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2019 6 hours ago, other one said: John 1:1-10 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. this is correct scripture. it is concurrent with Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he. so clearly the first is the Last, one Person. for clearly the verse said, "with" as in John 1:1. PICJAG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted July 19, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 hour ago, johnthebaptist said: I believe God is all three members of the Trinity. He is the Father. I believe he decided to come to earth as a human being, so he became Jesus. I believe when he communicates with us, he is the Holy Spirit. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. All three are God but three different persons. Jesus Christ is the Son of God and has always existed. God sent His Son to earth to die on the cross for our sins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101G Posted July 19, 2019 Group: Non-Trinitarian Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 187 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 38 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/13/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2019 The "LORD" is the "Lord", one person holding two titles. supportive scripture, Deuteronomy 10:17 "For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward" here in this verse, clearly the person God is one person who holds two titles. the apostle Thomas was correct in saying, "my Lord and my God". just what Deuteronomy 10:17 said. PICJAG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted July 19, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.32 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted July 19, 2019 44 minutes ago, missmuffet said: God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. All three are God but three different persons. Jesus Christ is the Son of God and has always existed. God sent His Son to earth to die on the cross for our sins. I think they (God the Father and Jesus) were one and the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted July 19, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,043 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,786 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 hour ago, 101G said: this is correct scripture. it is concurrent with Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he. so clearly the first is the Last, one Person. for clearly the verse said, "with" as in John 1:1. PICJAG. for the record that word with is not in the Hebrew manuscripts.... It is the same as Revelation I am the first and the last. Jesus is Yahweh, but not the Father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101G Posted July 19, 2019 Group: Non-Trinitarian Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 187 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 38 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/13/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2019 37 minutes ago, other one said: for the record that word with is not in the Hebrew manuscripts.... It is the same as Revelation I am the first and the last. Jesus is Yahweh, but not the Father so who is the FATHER then? personal name please. book chapter and verse. PICJAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted July 19, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,043 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,786 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 hour ago, 101G said: so who is the FATHER then? personal name please. book chapter and verse. PICJAG the Bible (Jesus) just calls him the Father.... says no one has seen Him.... Moses tells us that he and 74 others saw the God of Israel (Yahweh) so they can't be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101G Posted July 19, 2019 Group: Non-Trinitarian Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 187 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 38 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/13/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 minute ago, other one said: the Bible (Jesus) just calls him the Father.... says no one has seen Him.... Moses tells us that he and 74 others saw the God of Israel (Yahweh) so they can't be the same. We must disagree with that assessment. Yes, JESUS is the one whom many calls Yahweh without knowledge. But Jesus is not the Father? … NO, and here’s why. James 1:17 "Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning” Here, God is called the Father of lights. So why and who is he, the Father of? Let’s see. If on go to the blue letter bible onlineand look up Father, here’s the address, https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G3962&t=KJV It is the Greek word, G3962 πατήρ pater. If you will scroll down to where it says, “Outline of Biblical Usage [?]” And look at OUTLINE III, it says, God is called the Fatherof the stars, the heavenly luminaries, because he is their creator, upholder, ruler And if one look up “Luminary” is is the Sun and the Moon. So the Father is the CREATOR of all we see, and it is JESUS who made all that we see. so the "CREATOR" is the Father who made all things, which is the Lord JESUS. so your assessment is not correct. also the NAME of the Father is "JESUS". John 17:25 "O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me. John 17:26 "And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them". the only name given is "Jesus". PICJAG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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