101G Posted July 20, 2019 Group: Non-Trinitarian Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 187 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 38 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/13/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Jostler said: In whose authority did Jesus speak? How do we account for the fact the authority He spoke in was not His own if He is the Father? I tend to believe there's a bit of a mystery here we don't fully comprehend and can't comprehend from this dimension. Is an image the same as the reality? If I have a polaroid snapshot of you, do I have you? Or just a rather precise and informative representation of you. If I see your image can I say I have seen you? I honestly think He gives us the ability to at least begin to grasp some concepts here, but i don't think any analogy is perfect in fully explaining everything involved. Perhaps some humility and admission of partial understanding is more appropriate than dogmatism when it comes to these things. we can clear up this mystery. scripture, Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me". it's in the function of the ARM, which is his "OWN" Arm. if you like we can explain it to you. PICJAG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristin Posted July 20, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 875 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 757 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/04/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 20, 2019 26 minutes ago, 101G said: a third of what? PICJAG. Well I suppose a third of God. It’s painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostler Posted July 20, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 25 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,679 Content Per Day: 1.40 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 16 Joined: 01/19/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, 101G said: we can clear up this mystery. scripture, Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me". it's in the function of the ARM, which is his "OWN" Arm. if you like we can explain it to you. PICJAG. We would probably choke on it We are not much bothered by the fact our King and God have aspects and qualities we can't fully comprehend. He would be much too small to protect us if our little mind was fully sufficient to comprehend Him Edited July 20, 2019 by Jostler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101G Posted July 20, 2019 Group: Non-Trinitarian Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 187 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 38 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/13/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 20, 2019 Just now, Kristin said: Well I suppose a third of God. It’s painful. (smile) take hope.... you're the firt to at least to get close to the truth, it's the "Share" of God, that is equally shared. see Phil 2:6. PICJAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101G Posted July 20, 2019 Group: Non-Trinitarian Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 187 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 38 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/13/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Jostler said: We would probably choke on it We are not much bothered by the fact My King and My God have aspects and qualities we can't fully comprehend. He would be much too small to protect us if our little mind was fully sufficient to comprehend Him no, we can comprehend Him , listen, Romans 1:19 "Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. Romans 1:20 "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: so there is NO "EXCUSE" NOT TO KNOW. PICJAG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostler Posted July 20, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 25 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,679 Content Per Day: 1.40 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 16 Joined: 01/19/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 minute ago, 101G said: no, we can comprehend Him , listen, Romans 1:19 "Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. Romans 1:20 "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: so there is NO "EXCUSE" NOT TO KNOW. PICJAG. ahh...so God is nature? really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101G Posted July 20, 2019 Group: Non-Trinitarian Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 187 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 38 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/13/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 20, 2019 Just now, Jostler said: ahh...so God is nature? really? God nature is Spirit, per John 4:24a. and that nature fills heaven and earth, see Jer 23:23 & 24. and this nature was equally "shared" in flesh and blood, see Phil 2:6-8 in a G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') state. understand now?. PICJAG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101G Posted July 20, 2019 Group: Non-Trinitarian Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 187 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 38 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/13/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 20, 2019 @ Jostler understand what was made at the beginning was man... and ..... woman. there is your answer. PICJAG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted July 21, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,826 Content Per Day: 2.41 Reputation: 2,754 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 21, 2019 On 7/19/2019 at 11:06 PM, Kristin said: God pealed part of himself off and became human and will stay that way forever. Just a thought. I have try to make sense of the above statement and I admit that I am at a lost... So what do you mean by that? Did you read something in the bible or in some other book that make you think of it...or is this an analogy to help us understand something we discussed... I would appreciate a response, it could lead to a nice conversation.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted July 21, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,826 Content Per Day: 2.41 Reputation: 2,754 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, 101G said: God nature is Spirit, per John 4:24a. and that nature fills heaven and earth, see Jer 23:23 & 24. and this nature was equally "shared" in flesh and blood, see Phil 2:6-8 in a G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') state. understand now?. PICJAG. I tried to understand your post, I cannot connect to it, you are not making known the context of your thoughts...to what you stand for...it's not clear even from your previous post...you answer to someone else post with riddles... Don't you think we want to show disagreement with someone elses post we must first understand what he is saying.... This is an example: The creator of all, the God in Genesis, in the context as to why Jesus was born with the Life in him, which Life is trace to the Heavenly Father... And not in death in him, which is trace to Adam... If you understand that Adam did not have any children before he exit the Garden, or Eve did not conceive before Adam's disobedience... You can understand we are the seed of disobedience was upon the whole world including the Jews... The seed of disobedience is death... How Jesus was the seed of obedience-he was conceived in the Life of God... and not in the same seed as the other Jews, or the seed of Abraham... I will go a step ahead of you....and I can say that from your posting....that you cannot answer this question because you are strange to it...or you have difficulty relating to it. Or you do not understand it.. Because you did not agree with that, in your posting, which is a mandatory requirement in the profile of the Christ...the Messiah, if not how can he be called the Son of God.. You must believe that Jesus is the Life giving Spirit, or he gives Life to those who believe in him...as he is so we are by faith in him... Edited July 21, 2019 by Your closest friendnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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