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On 7/19/2019 at 1:21 AM, Nadjeschda said:

A sincere question: Who of us have realy still a chance to go to heaven, and if yes to be seated close by god? Former generations where cruel out of poverty and neccessity. But what is our excuse, the excuse of modern high tech society? What is the excuse of capitalism now that we have the means to help? We circle in cruise ship around the starving people - the food that could have been used to save them was fed to the swine we no eat in our expensive dresses on said holidays. I would have prefered mediveal beheading for myself instead of starving this way - as the more honest, more couragous (couragous by the killers) and less painfull way to die.

what? :huh:

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3 minutes ago, BeauJangles said:

what? :huh:

In system with distributed responsibility violence usually escalates because you can not pinpoint any person who causes the problem, like you can in a normal crime. In modern society the ways we cause suffering are exactly like this. Since we a apply a negative application of the golden rule to our laws we do not feel responsible for not doing something - but that is a man made view of law. Jesus applied the positive form of the golden rule when he said "DO to others what you want them to do to you." So not acting when others starve is a crime in the eyes of Jesus regardless what human law says to it. I prefere to look my killer into the eyes (as in an execution), a killer who takes responsiblity for what he is doing, instead of beeing slowely killed through starvation by a faceless hedonistic mob. Does it answer your question?

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3 minutes ago, Nadjeschda said:

Does it answer your question?

Yeah, maybe I guess... I'm also a little bit sleep deprived, so maybe it's not such a great time for me to get into lofty philosophical discussions right now. Think I'll go back to bed... God bless. :047:

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3 minutes ago, BeauJangles said:

Yeah, maybe I guess... I'm also a little bit sleep deprived, so maybe it's not such a great time for me to get into lofty philosophical discussions right now. Think I'll go back to bed... God bless. :047:

Sorry, I know that state, I am in pain and that does not make me more fit to do such philosophic discussions too :) God bless you and sleep well.

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Only the humble one can find the way leading to GODs kingdom

In this age

The people try to built the The Tower of Babel by the righteous of humbeing own

Lets see the consequence

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Ms Nadjeschda

I can see that you have a social conscience and are upset with the world and our apparent inability to do what the Lord tells us to.

I can see that you agonize over it much the way one would imagine Jeremiah did.

God chose him for a purpose and all of us have a purpose, though often it is obscured by worldly cares.

It is interesting that I worked for a Machiavellian person once that taught me most of what I learned about business, customer service and the way things work. One of his favorite sayings was: Do not come to me with complaints unless you also suggest a remedy. No disease complaints without a suggested cure.

So, what is your idea of a cure for all these ills?

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43 minutes ago, silviawang said:

Only the humble one can find the way leading to GODs kingdom

In this age

The people try to built the The Tower of Babel by the righteous of humbeing own

Lets see the consequence

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father but by Me.

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3 hours ago, Nadjeschda said:

Judgmental and wrong. I am in strong chronic pain and can not answer this threat 24 hours around the clock.

I don't see it as being judgmental on my part, but yours.    You speak of the murder rate in the US but do you understand that if you remove two cities from our data we are really low on the list and those two cities are do not reflect the rest of the nation here.   And it is the socialist leading places that cover those two cities.   We are as unhappy with them as you seem to be with the world.   But I think you have a lot to learn about the world and how it is working, but I'll leave that to you since you seem to have a lot of time and deep studies help to take the mind off the pain....   and I know that from experience.

As for giving you might spend some time here:

https://explorer.usaid.gov/

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You attack me ad hominem because you said I did not reply in time! That is different then if I try to explain that part of US Christianity (an anonymous group) now is heresy. You explain everything out of the framework of socialism and hence secularism - that religion itself can be corroded by Satan (Satan used bible quotes to tempt Jesus!) never occurs to you. With this you are more and more side tracking yourself into secular thinking frames such as politics and away from spirituality and the bible. To stop the red hearing strategy I will try to bring you back to the main christian point: "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God." And you may leave whenever you want, you are free and I wish you all the best for your soul - but I do not like others to be sidetracked in similar ways.

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3 minutes ago, Nadjeschda said:

You attack me ad hominem because you said I did not reply in time! That is different then if I try to explain that part of US Christianity (an anonymous group) now is heresy. You explain everything out of the framework of socialism and hence secularism - that religion itself can be corroded by Satan (Satan used bible quotes to tempt Jesus!) never occurs to you. With this you are more and more side tracking yourself into secular thinking frames such as politics and away from spirituality and the bible. To stop the red hearing strategy I will try to bring you back to the main christian point: "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God." And you may leave whenever you want, you are free and I wish you all the best for your soul - but I do not like others to be sidetracked in similar ways.

are you speaking to me?

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