Walter and Deborah Posted July 21, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 14 Topic Count: 2,228 Topics Per Day: 0.50 Content Count: 4,353 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,030 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/13/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/11/1947 Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 Peter 3:1-22 First Peter Three: The Scriptures (ISR 1998) 1 In the same way, wives, be subject to your own husbands, so that if any are disobedient to the Word, they, without a word, might be won by the behavior of their wives, Submission In Marriage 1-8, Submission In All Of Life 9-12, Conduct In Suffering 13-17, Christ's Example Of Suffering 18-22 1 Peter 3 - KJV Bible - Bible Study Tools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always a Moon Posted July 21, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 51 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 80 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/16/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted July 21, 2019 The full passage seems to imply that husband and wife are both reliant on each other. Perhaps in the historical context it was not fathomable to say, "Husbands, also, submit to your wives," so it says, "...that, if any (husband) obey not the word, they may be won by the conversation of the wives. While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear." The submission of women is highly controversial in our society today. All God's people are instructed to have a submissive heart. I want to say more, but I'll be late for church... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostler Posted July 21, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 25 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,679 Content Per Day: 1.40 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 16 Joined: 01/19/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted July 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, Always a Moon said: The full passage seems to imply that husband and wife are both reliant on each other. Perhaps in the historical context it was not fathomable to say, "Husbands, also, submit to your wives," so it says, "...that, if any (husband) obey not the word, they may be won by the conversation of the wives. While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear." The submission of women is highly controversial in our society today. All God's people are instructed to have a submissive heart. I want to say more, but I'll be late for church... there's a dearth of understanding His real design for marriage. We get His ideas of authority and submission all mixed up with the world's ideas of what those mean. Any man who does not recognize God's presence in His wife and refuses to SUBMIT to her is a straight up fool..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pg4Him Posted July 21, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 347 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 370 Days Won: 2 Joined: 08/20/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted July 21, 2019 We take bits and pieces of the Bible that don’t upset our cultural paradigm, and we build our theology around them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostler Posted July 21, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 25 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,679 Content Per Day: 1.40 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 16 Joined: 01/19/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted July 21, 2019 And He never told any woman to submit to sin because her husband demanded it either....grrrr lol..sorry....this topic trips my trigger and until the Body gets this right the power He intends to display THROUGH families will continue to lie dormant. And there IS no greater threat to satan's plans than a man and woman ONE, in Him, producing Godly offspring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pg4Him Posted July 21, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 347 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 370 Days Won: 2 Joined: 08/20/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted July 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jostler said: And He never told any woman to submit to sin because her husband demanded it either....grrrr lol..sorry....this topic trips my trigger and until the Body gets this right the power He intends to display THROUGH families will continue to lie dormant. And there IS no greater threat to satan's plans than a man and woman ONE, in Him, producing Godly offspring. Sorry bro, but talk like that will get you attacked by half the Christians in this nation. Churches are making a nice little profit selling daycare to single divorced mothers. They will NOT rock that boat. The Christian music industry knows that suburban women are the dominant consumer, so no songs on Christian radio with controversial doctrine. You know how much money women spend on products that come out of Elevation Church? You know how many female subscribers Steven Furtick has? Shut your mouth with that talk of a healthy Christian household. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostler Posted July 21, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 25 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,679 Content Per Day: 1.40 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 16 Joined: 01/19/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted July 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, pg4Him said: Sorry bro, but talk like that will get you attacked by half the Christians in this nation. Churches are making a nice little profit selling daycare to single divorced mothers. They will NOT rock that boat. The Christian music industry knows that suburban women are the dominant consumer, so no songs on Christian radio with controversial doctrine. You know how much money women spend on products that come out of Elevation Church? You know how many female subscribers Steven Furtick has? Shut your mouth with that talk of a healthy Christian household. Well He's going to fix it for those willing to be taught, repent and get in line with His design. If we understood the power and purpose of God He implanted in women, we'd be elevating, not seeking to dominate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pg4Him Posted July 21, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 347 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 370 Days Won: 2 Joined: 08/20/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted July 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jostler said: Well He's going to fix it for those willing to be taught, repent and get in line with His design. If we understood the power and purpose of God He implanted in women, we'd be elevating, not seeking to dominate. People don’t go to church to learn His design. They accept the parts that align with their pre-conceived cultural biases. Paul said what about women? Nah, that doesn’t apply to me... but let’s talk about his brilliance in the love chapter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostler Posted July 21, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 25 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,679 Content Per Day: 1.40 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 16 Joined: 01/19/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 minute ago, pg4Him said: People don’t go to church to learn His design. They accept the parts that align with their pre-conceived cultural biases. Paul said what about women? Nah, that doesn’t apply to me... but let’s talk about his brilliance in the love chapter. He'll fix it I am sure that's true for some....but we won't change it by raging against it And it's not true for all. Many will leap to embrace the truth once they have a chance to hear it. satan's arguments are seductive....and when voices of authority give voice to those, it's a snare and some genuinely desiring to serve and obey fall into the trap. Preach the truth, bear the inevitable persecution....He'll grow the seeds that fall on good ground. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted July 21, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.36 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted July 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, pg4Him said: People don’t go to church to learn His design. They accept the parts that align with their pre-conceived cultural biases. Paul said what about women? Nah, that doesn’t apply to me... but let’s talk about his brilliance in the love chapter. Only they also don't know a THING about the charity chapter . They take even that out of text . For folks forget , we have to CHARITY GOD above EVERYTHING , CHRIST ABOVE EVERYTHING , WHICH MEANS If we CHARITY HIM we CHARITY and DO HIS SAYINGS . He who does not CHARITY me above wife , mother , spouse , brother , sister, etc , is not worthy of me . The charity they preach is about hugs and doing good works . But what did paul say , EVEN if I GAVE ALL MY GOODS to the poor and HAD NOT CHARITY it profits me nothing . Charity REJOICES IN TRUTH , not mens twisted false doctrines . TRUTH not inquity . IF we love the twisted sayings of men who have sold out to cultural norms , WE IN DIRE TROUBLE . And folks AINT seeing this very clear at all . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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