Littlelambseativy Posted July 21, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 230 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,941 Content Per Day: 0.95 Reputation: 2,003 Days Won: 14 Joined: 02/08/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted July 21, 2019 Why do so many joke that they will end in “hell” with their friends and not fear, yet no one speaks of “outer darkness”? Everyone knows of hell. Why does no one speak of outer darkness nor fear it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Indeed they should. Because that is the more likely hell. I understand hell is where God does not abide. Cold, dark, a banishment. Quite right that anyone who denies God and refuses to worship him should spend their eternity there. Entirely their own choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Mclees Posted July 21, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 158 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 1,915 Content Per Day: 0.81 Reputation: 910 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/15/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 21, 2019 27 minutes ago, Melinda12 said: Indeed they should. Because that is the more likely hell. I understand hell is where God does not abide. Cold, dark, a banishment. Quite right that anyone who denies God and refuses to worship him should spend their eternity there. Entirely their own choice. hell is eternal punishment wear the fire never goes out. We need to pray for all who would reject Christ. Hell is to great for any man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pekoudah Posted July 21, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 302 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 624 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/04/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted July 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Littlelambseativy said: Why do so many joke that they will end in “hell” with their friends and not fear, yet no one speaks of “outer darkness”? Everyone knows of hell. Why does no one speak of outer darkness nor fear it? It's because the truth is hard to believe. Christians are really in no danger of going to the lake of fire. We have been given life. But the quality of that life depends on our attitude. So then there is a real possibility that we as believers can be cast out of God's presence and into outer darkness to wander there forever. Jude speaks of this in his letter. And there are many references to this in both testaments. We have been warned. Every person will give a personal account of themselves before Jesus Christ. In a great house are both vessels for honour and those for dishonour and shame. And this from the same lump. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlelambseativy Posted July 21, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 230 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,941 Content Per Day: 0.95 Reputation: 2,003 Days Won: 14 Joined: 02/08/2010 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 21, 2019 However, there is outer darkness. Who is to spend eternity there? Jesus said there will be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth. Or is it only hell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostler Posted July 21, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 25 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,679 Content Per Day: 1.40 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 16 Joined: 01/19/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Littlelambseativy said: However, there is outer darkness. Who is to spend eternity there? Jesus said there will be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth. Or is it only hell? i'm totally convinced the lake of fire and the "outer darkness" are two very different things. A good deep dive into studying "eternal judgement" one of the six MILK topics described in Hebrews 6 makes that conclusion inevitable ..IMO Kinda like many just assume failing to enter the Kingdom is equal to being consigned to the lake of fire terribly flawed assumption Edited July 21, 2019 by Jostler 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted July 21, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.32 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted July 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Littlelambseativy said: Why do so many joke that they will end in “hell” with their friends and not fear, yet no one speaks of “outer darkness”? Everyone knows of hell. Why does no one speak of outer darkness nor fear it? I think the thing to fear is the consequence of our sin. For instance, if I rob a bank, I'll probably wind up in prison. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appy Posted July 21, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 23 Topic Count: 133 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,864 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 2,596 Days Won: 2 Joined: 08/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted July 21, 2019 Its not Christians who would be joking, but unbelievers; they do it for a couple of reasons or more. For some, it is because they try to deny that there is a God and that he will judge them. It really isn't possible to share the gospel with unbelievers without also telling them why they are in need of a Savior. For some, it is certainly a scary thought and its a way to comfort and console themselves. They don't actually understand what that outer darkness will be, so they laugh at what they don't understand. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted July 21, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Littlelambseativy said: Why do so many joke that they will end in “hell” with their friends and not fear, yet no one speaks of “outer darkness”? Everyone knows of hell. Why does no one speak of outer darkness nor fear it? Most Bible scholars know of hell as the outer darkness Matthew 8:12. A lot of the true born again Christians are aware of the horrible eternal torment and punishment which is hell that the unbeliever will enter for an eternity. I have experienced many unbelievers making a joke out of going to hell. They laugh and they say they will not be alone because all of their friends will be there. Of having a party when they get there. But we need to have compassion and pray for these people because they will have an eternity that will be a nightmare. There will be no relief and it will never end. On this earth when we are suffering and are hurt we know there will soon be relief. But that will not be the case in hell. Do you think that deep down inside these people are really afraid? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted July 21, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Littlelambseativy said: However, there is outer darkness. Who is to spend eternity there? Jesus said there will be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth. Or is it only hell? Every person who does not believe in Jesus Christ will go to hell. Outer darkness is hell. Those unbelievers who have died are now in Hades. That is a holding place for those who will enter the Great White Throne judgment at the end of the Millennium. They will all enter hell. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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