Popular Post ayin jade Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2019 I saw this in the news today and Im curious what you all think. A man, I will call him fred, is dying and wishes to have 1) his funeral at the church he first attended and 2) have his son sing at the funeral. The son, jesse, made arrangements with the church for the funeral. The church later found out that the son will have his fiance with him. The fiance is another man. The church, a baptist church, canceled the funeral. There is some dispute about whether or not they outright canceled it or asked that the fiance not attend. Regardless, there is a huge backlash against the church and I suspect this could end up going to court. Which would mean that churches may lose the right to have any say in what goes on at their churches. Was the church correct in what they did? Personally I think the church was correct to cancel the funeral. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pg4Him Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 347 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 370 Days Won: 2 Joined: 08/20/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 If the church charges a fee to do funerals like a business, I can foresee real legal trouble, especially if there was some sort of contract with no clause for immoral behavior. If they were doing it for free as a ministry, that’s a different story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,088 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,833 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 I agree Ayin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristin Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 875 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 757 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/04/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 Aside from maybe being sued, which is terrible, the church should stand on Word of God. God is all seeing and far reaching. This may help people understand. This may change people. Not everything is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 107 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,820 Content Per Day: 1.30 Reputation: 4,804 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 I'm not so sure what the grounds were to cancel the funeral. A straight man was going to be remembered in a funeral at the church of his choice. His gay son was going to sing a song. What am I missing? This isn't like the baker asked to make a wedding cake for a gay couple including the cake topper with a same sex couple. Creating that type of art that is for the purpose of celebrating a gay couple - the baker was within his rights to say no. But this is the funeral of a straight man. Is there more to this story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 https://wset.com/news/nation-world/tennessee-man-says-his-sexual-orientation-stands-between-church-and-fathers-funeral-plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adstar Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,399 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,307 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 hour ago, ayin jade said: I saw this in the news today and Im curious what you all think. A man, I will call him fred, is dying and wishes to have 1) his funeral at the church he first attended and 2) have his son sing at the funeral. The son, jesse, made arrangements with the church for the funeral. The church later found out that the son will have his fiance with him. The fiance is another man. The church, a baptist church, canceled the funeral. There is some dispute about whether or not they outright canceled it or asked that the fiance not attend. Regardless, there is a huge backlash against the church and I suspect this could end up going to court. Which would mean that churches may lose the right to have any say in what goes on at their churches. Was the church correct in what they did? Personally I think the church was correct to cancel the funeral. I agree they where right to cancel the funeral.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.93 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, ayin jade said: I saw this in the news today and Im curious what you all think. A man, I will call him fred, is dying and wishes to have 1) his funeral at the church he first attended and 2) have his son sing at the funeral. The son, jesse, made arrangements with the church for the funeral. The church later found out that the son will have his fiance with him. The fiance is another man. The church, a baptist church, canceled the funeral. There is some dispute about whether or not they outright canceled it or asked that the fiance not attend. Regardless, there is a huge backlash against the church and I suspect this could end up going to court. Which would mean that churches may lose the right to have any say in what goes on at their churches. Was the church correct in what they did? Personally I think the church was correct to cancel the funeral. for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, Romans 3:23 So my thoughts are. Are they canceling the funeral because a person among the guest is a sinner? Would they cancel the funeral for the sins of the other guest as well? Should the church have a policy that sinner are not allowed to attend funerals? Funerals, at less the ones I have attended; have been opportunities for the unsaved to hear the word of God. A church that turns away someone from it's doors for being a sinner is a church that that has lost its way. Edited July 25, 2019 by LadyKay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted July 25, 2019 2 hours ago, ayin jade said: Was the church correct in what they did? Personally I think the church was correct to cancel the funeral. I think so too. It's time for at least some churches to stand up for what is biblically, and morally right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristin Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 875 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 757 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/04/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Jayne said: I'm not so sure what the grounds were to cancel the funeral. A straight man was going to be remembered in a funeral at the church of his choice. His gay son was going to sing a song. What am I missing? This isn't like the baker asked to make a wedding cake for a gay couple including the cake topper with a same sex couple. Creating that type of art that is for the purpose of celebrating a gay couple - the baker was within his rights to say no. But this is the funeral of a straight man. Is there more to this story. Jayne I agree it seems harsh. However; the father was a CHRISTIAN and now dead. Churches must follow the Word of God. They must. This son may come to the Lord because this is a hard thing. We can’t baby and coddle people into damnation. There comes a point to love them enough to show them the truth. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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