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On 7/30/2019 at 11:57 PM, Melinda12 said:

...and you find out reasons then healing. Listen not condemn. 

I have a wide range of friends. Some are atheists, gay, other denominations. I am interested in them. 

Two examples.

One friend is gay and atheist and also a good person and great friend. This didn't happen by chance. He tells me grew up in a christian family. As a teenager he realised he is gay. The condemnation he faced drove him away from all religion. He has been with his partner for 30 years. He feels he has no need of God. 

Second. A male atheist. He told me as a child he was in a christian family. But his mother cruelly beat him if he showed reluctance to attend church. Once he grew up and left home, he refused ever to go to church again nor does he feel he needs God. 

So i say. Welcome and talk to all. Put your prejudices and assumptions aside. Everyone has their story. We are all sinners. Please don't condemn. Souls need direction and saving. It cannot be done by rejecting people. 

Anyone seen Les Miserables? In it everyone sees the main character as a hardened criminal, a sinner. Except the priest. He alone gives him kindness, respect and the chance to live a better life. A true man of God who snatches a condemned man away from the influences of the devil. By showing love. That is the key in my view. 

 

Born again Christians can have casual friends who are not born again Christians. But we keep the friendship casual. A best friend is someone who we pray with and confide in. That person should be a born again Christian. We are to be kind to everyone but not be unevenly yolked in our friendships. 

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4 minutes ago, Firm Foundation said:

There is no excuse for child abuse.  God was not in that at all but gets the blame.

what?:huh: 

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Just now, BeauJangles said:

what?:huh: 

In the OP, one person became an atheist because his Christian mother beat him.

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3 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

Born again Christians can have casual friends who are not born again Christians. But we keep the friendship casual. A best friend is someone who pray with and confide in. That person should be a born again Christian. We are to be kind to everyone but not be unevenly yolked in our friendships. 

Amen. :amen:

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1 minute ago, Firm Foundation said:

In the OP, one person became an atheist because his Christian mother beat him.

Oh. ( duh! ) That's right, I forgot. :b:

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16 minutes ago, Firm Foundation said:

There is no excuse for child abuse. 

 

8 minutes ago, Firm Foundation said:

In the OP, one person became an atheist because his Christian mother beat him.

Sometimes it helps to quote and then edit the OP, for the benefit remaining on topic. Just saying. ;) 

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23 minutes ago, BeauJangles said:

 

Sometimes it helps to quote and then edit the OP, for the benefit remaining on topic. Just saying. ;) 

I didn't read every post.  I just came across the thread and read the OP.

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37 minutes ago, Firm Foundation said:

In the OP, one person became an atheist because his Christian mother beat him.

Years ago my mother told me a story of a couple she knew who would wake their children and ask them their dreams. If the dreams were evil they would beat them. They said that the children were evil. 

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1 minute ago, Firm Foundation said:

I didn't read every post.  I just came across the thread and read the OP.

Yeah, I gotcha. Sometimes it gets laborious after a couple of pages or so. Can't blame you on that. 

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Just a final comment. Sometimes we get topics like this with those who feel it's perfectly fine to have ungodly and disbelieving friends. They get pretty defensive and adamant about it when we express that it's not always the wisest decision to make, and how doing so dilutes and compromises their faith in the long run. It can and it does. The Word says so. Then when problems arise, they wonder what went wrong, and post cries for help in forums such as this one. It's kind of sad when they can't take common sense advice in the first place.  

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