JoeCanada Posted August 4, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 74 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,238 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 669 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/26/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted August 4, 2019 3 hours ago, luigi said: Yes Doug, During the Bronze age, the uneducated slave class in Egypt were not very astute, and so they danced around a golden calf. Do you think that in this more enlightened day and age, you are going to have billions of people dancing around any physical statue? The life of the image of the beast that is able to speak, are the marvellous results from the beasts system which will speak for itself. Hi luigi, "Do you think that in this more enlightened day and age, you are going to have billions of people dancing around any physical statue?" All we have to do is look at Meca. They might not be "dancing", at least not in the way we perceive it. And they do it to a black meteorite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggg Posted August 5, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,143 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 220 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted August 5, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, dhchristian said: It is a simplification of the following to me... And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, (Rev 13:12) That is a mouthful to type I think and have confidence you are creative enough to come up with another word(s) than "rules" for the false prophet. Maybe something, like "chief advocator". Or acts as "religious spokesman for the beast". Something that indicates he is under the beast, but the highest religious figure of the beast's regime. Or maybe something like the "dominant religious figure in the beast's regime" who exercises the beast's power and authority. Then you could go on to say, this dominant religious figure does.... (fill in the blank). (I am thinking of phrases and terms I can use myself) "rules" for the first beast person and the ten kings is fine and appropriate for them, imo. Edited August 5, 2019 by douggg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi Posted August 5, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,692 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 295 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted August 5, 2019 13 hours ago, JoeCanada said: Hi luigi, "Do you think that in this more enlightened day and age, you are going to have billions of people dancing around any physical statue?" All we have to do is look at Meca. They might not be "dancing", at least not in the way we perceive it. And they do it to a black meteorite! How many people at Mecca annually? A few million at best annually. A billion is a thousand million, and according to the Word, the whole world not found written in the book of life will worship the beast (Rev 13:8). This represents billions of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Daze Posted August 5, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,987 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 2,517 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted August 5, 2019 18 hours ago, luigi said: Yes, a code of conduct can represent an image of something, but why would billions of people worship a code of conduct? The world will worship their perception/image of perfection in the beasts new system. How do we worship God? We keep His "code of conduct." How will people worship the beast? They will comply with his code of conduct. Why would they? They are deceived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi Posted August 5, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,692 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 295 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted August 5, 2019 47 minutes ago, Last Daze said: How do we worship God? We keep His "code of conduct." How will people worship the beast? They will comply with his code of conduct. Why would they? They are deceived. How do we love God? As God is love (1 John 4:8 & 16), we then believe in loving our neighbor. How will people love the beast? The beast's system will provide mankind all the things/idols/material goods they love and want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhchristian Posted August 5, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2,488 Content Per Day: 1.43 Reputation: 1,325 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/29/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 5, 2019 12 hours ago, douggg said: I think and have confidence you are creative enough to come up with another word(s) than "rules" for the false prophet. Maybe something, like "chief advocator". Or acts as "religious spokesman for the beast". Something that indicates he is under the beast, but the highest religious figure of the beast's regime. Or maybe something like the "dominant religious figure in the beast's regime" who exercises the beast's power and authority. Then you could go on to say, this dominant religious figure does.... (fill in the blank). (I am thinking of phrases and terms I can use myself) "rules" for the first beast person and the ten kings is fine and appropriate for them, imo. This is just semantics. Just like saying "event" or "war" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhchristian Posted August 7, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2,488 Content Per Day: 1.43 Reputation: 1,325 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/29/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 7, 2019 I Want to at this time Point out some scriptures that point to the antichrist being this Legion. Again this just theoretical. The legion spirit is many in one, and one in many. When the spirit was cast out by Jesus, he was many in one human host, and then was cast into a herd of swine becoming one in many. In 1 John we see this plurality and singularity play out in his discussion of Antichrist, and antichrists. Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. (1 John 2:18) The other thing is that when Jesus cast this spirit out into the swine, the swine ran themselves into the sea and drowned themselves. The Beast of Rev. 13 is said to come up out of the sea. And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. (Rev. 13:1) The Sea spoken of in Mark 5 is the sea of Galilee. This Should give you an idea where this AC beast rises from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi Posted August 7, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,692 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 295 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted August 7, 2019 Yes, it is a name, and it is Death, the fourth horseman of the apocalypse. Isaiah 28:15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves: Revelation 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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