FrankIeCip Posted August 12, 2021 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 757 Content Per Day: 0.58 Reputation: 1,119 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/25/2020 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/08/1978 Share Posted August 12, 2021 On 10/8/2019 at 12:56 PM, Alive said: That side of the coin and a discussion of such, is a big discussion. I think differently on the issue than some do. Predestination is taught from Genesis all the way to the last chapter. God has chosen men, women and nations. I ask my question from a thread I started. Did Lazarus have a choice? That is precisely what happened to me! :-) Hi brother. I saw that post and I think I replied to it also. The point regarding Lazarus is a perfect example. Thanks again.?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries2020 Posted August 26, 2021 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 137 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 107 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/26/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted August 26, 2021 Greetings, i have never understood the concept or principles of predestination, it is to overwhelming for me to comprehend and understand its context. But taking up your cross and walking with Jesus is just 1 day at a time and that is more than enough for me to overcome. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK1110 Posted August 26, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 6,858 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 9,583 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/18/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/10/1986 Share Posted August 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Aries2020 said: Greetings, i have never understood the concept or principles of predestination, it is to overwhelming for me to comprehend and understand its context. But taking up your cross and walking with Jesus is just 1 day at a time and that is more than enough for me to overcome. I'm currently reading a book called "Beyond the Cosmos: The Transdimensionality of God" by Dr. Hugh Ross. It offers some great insight into many of the paradoxes of the Christian faith, predestination vs. free will being one of them. You might be interested in seeing what Dr. Ross has to say about the issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starise Posted August 26, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 13 Topic Count: 279 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 13,062 Content Per Day: 9.80 Reputation: 13,520 Days Won: 149 Joined: 08/26/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted August 26, 2021 On 8/11/2021 at 8:32 PM, Josheb said: And I don't find it a particularly tough question to answer , even amidst so many different opinions. It might be helpful to understand the Bible says very about those left without a choice to be [God's]. No one is without a choice. Being without a choice is NOT predestination. According to the Westminster Confession of Faith God ordained all things from eternity..... In a nutshell this.^^^^^^ NO ONE is without a choice.The very term predestination makes it seem choice has been removed. If I PRE determine for my son his education, he wasn't given a choice. However he can still change his mind and go against my choice for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiards Ball Posted August 27, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,502 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 662 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/05/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted August 27, 2021 On 8/6/2019 at 12:04 AM, ilovejcsog said: Seems to be a really tough question. So many different opinions. I am always concerned about those left out without a choice to be Gods. I used to believe firmly in predestination, then God changed my mind for me, as He'd planned to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries2020 Posted September 7, 2021 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 137 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 107 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/26/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted September 7, 2021 On 8/26/2021 at 10:20 PM, BK1110 said: I'm currently reading a book called "Beyond the Cosmos: The Transdimensionality of God" by Dr. Hugh Ross. It offers some great insight into many of the paradoxes of the Christian faith, predestination vs. free will being one of them. You might be interested in seeing what Dr. Ross has to say about the issue. i watched How Science Reveals God's Trans-Dimensional Power by Hugh Ross on you tube but after the first 5-10 mins but it was to academic and theological for me i just like plain and simple explanations. But thank you for the reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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