ReneeIW Posted August 12, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 42 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 944 Content Per Day: 0.54 Reputation: 780 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/06/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted August 12, 2019 What would you think of a “devout” Christian who leads a Bible Study saying they were not a drug addict but only uses a certain(very addictive and illegal) drug “very sparingly.” Isn’t that worse than being an addict? I know nothing about drugs, but I would think that if you are not addicted, then you have no excuse for ever using drugs. I was told that we are not supposed to judge people about things that are not specifically in the Bible but I’m having a hard time not judging this. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted August 12, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,242 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted August 12, 2019 Perhaps point out how we are to obey the laws of the land except where they contradict the Lord. Since a drug is illegal, its a sin to be using it. Does the church leadership know this person is in sin and hosting a bible study? For me personally, if I approached that bible study leader, and if they just made excuses for it, I would leave the bible study. I dont know that it is worse or better than an addict. Both wilfully use something that is illegal. What strikes me is that the person is leading a bible study yet excuses their willful sin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael37 Posted August 12, 2019 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6,901 Content Per Day: 3.26 Reputation: 4,831 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1954 Share Posted August 12, 2019 47 minutes ago, ayin jade said: Perhaps point out how we are to obey the laws of the land except where they contradict the Lord. Since a drug is illegal, its a sin to be using it. Does the church leadership know this person is in sin and hosting a bible study? For me personally, if I approached that bible study leader, and if they just made excuses for it, I would leave the bible study. I dont know that it is worse or better than an addict. Both wilfully use something that is illegal. What strikes me is that the person is leading a bible study yet excuses their willful sin. I came across a youth Bible study leader who was touted as switched on for Christ by unsuspecting Baptists promoting his style. Turned out he was selling LSD tabs to vulnerable school students after the mid-week evening groups they attended. He was using the line that it would help them experience God. Deception. Corruption. Exploitation. All these in the name of Christ. Christians beware! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted August 12, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,242 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Michael37 said: I came across a youth Bible study leader who was touted as switched on for Christ by unsuspecting Baptists promoting his style. Turned out he was selling LSD tabs to vulnerable school students after the mid-week evening groups they attended. He was using the line that it would help them experience God. Deception. Corruption. Exploitation. All these in the name of Christ. Christians beware! Oy vey. Wolves show up everywhere. Hopefully he was exposed early on michael? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael37 Posted August 12, 2019 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6,901 Content Per Day: 3.26 Reputation: 4,831 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1954 Share Posted August 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, ayin jade said: Oy vey. Wolves show up everywhere. Hopefully he was exposed early on michael? I hope he was. Long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted August 12, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 hours ago, ReneeIW said: What would you think of a “devout” Christian who leads a Bible Study saying they were not a drug addict but only uses a certain(very addictive and illegal) drug “very sparingly.” Isn’t that worse than being an addict? I know nothing about drugs, but I would think that if you are not addicted, then you have no excuse for ever using drugs. I was told that we are not supposed to judge people about things that are not specifically in the Bible but I’m having a hard time not judging this. Thoughts? I would approach that person and tell them that I would rather not attend their Bible study. This is a teacher of God's Word and should not be partaking in illegal drugs. I would also have a talk with the Churches Pastor. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOrangeCat Posted August 12, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 57 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,398 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 1,819 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/24/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted August 12, 2019 You might want to check out the word "pharmakeia" in the context of the Bible. Some of the time when the Bible speaks of witchcraft and the like the Greek versions use that word. So it seems to be referring to the use of mind altering substances. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJbowler Posted August 12, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 35 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 32 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, ReneeIW said: What would you think of a “devout” Christian who leads a Bible Study saying they were not a drug addict but only uses a certain(very addictive and illegal) drug “very sparingly.” Isn’t that worse than being an addict? I know nothing about drugs, but I would think that if you are not addicted, then you have no excuse for ever using drugs. I was told that we are not supposed to judge people about things that are not specifically in the Bible but I’m having a hard time not judging this. Thoughts? You said, I was told, Not suppose to judge people. Did you listen. What if these Devout Christians, sparingly in your words smoke some of the peace pipe. Do we run them off there reservation, Its legal in many countries and is medical benefits and purpose are now being understood. What if they are really nice people that love our Lord, and teach his words. Step up and cast the first stone. The first time i smoked the peace pipe as a follower of the Messiah, I couldn't stop thinking about him the hole time I was high. You can cast stones at me two, as i thank him every day. I'm not condoning or condemning but a lot of followers are not following his words. Whats Judge Not mean. Edited August 12, 2019 by DJbowler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debp Posted August 12, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 52 Topic Count: 1,015 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 12,277 Content Per Day: 1.79 Reputation: 16,335 Days Won: 92 Joined: 07/19/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted August 12, 2019 4 hours ago, Michael37 said: I came across a youth Bible study leader who was touted as switched on for Christ by unsuspecting Baptists promoting his style. Turned out he was selling LSD tabs to vulnerable school students after the mid-week evening groups they attended. He was using the line that it would help them experience God. Deception. Corruption. Exploitation. All these in the name of Christ. Christians beware! Definitely a wolf in sheep's clothing! I would have told the pastor and the police. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostler Posted August 12, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 25 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,679 Content Per Day: 1.40 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 16 Joined: 01/19/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted August 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, DJbowler said: You said, I was told, Not suppose to judge people. Did you listen. What if these Devout Christians, sparingly in your words smoke some of the peace pipe. Do we run them off there reservation, Its legal in many countries and is medical benefits and purpose are now being understood. What if they are really nice people that love our Lord, and teach his words. Step up and cast the first stone. The first time i smoked the peace pipe as a follower of the Messiah, I couldn't stop thinking about him the hole time I was high. You can cast stones at me two, as i thank him every day. I'm not condoning or condemning but a lot of followers are not following his words. Whats Judge Not mean. You might enjoy reading 1st Corinthians Chapter 5...and it might modify what you appear to now believe about "judging". 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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