unworthyservant Posted August 16, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 96 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 645 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 298 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/11/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 16, 2019 9 hours ago, Kristin said: We are called to bring the gospel of grace when we can to the lost. Unfortunately, most of the world is lost. It’s heartbreaking. Homosexuals aren’t the only lost souls. My own dad is an agnostic. Whatever that means. I will be be angry if my dad isn’t in heaven. He’s still alive. Please let’s pray for his salvation. Thank you Amen, Kristin. I simply posed the question due to that recent fiasco with the Presbyterian church. You hit the nail on the head when you say MOST of the world is lost. I believe that it's also the case that many who think they are saved are among those. By the way, my understanding of agnostic is that it is a opposite of the word Gnostic. The Gnostic believed that everything was spiritual and didn't take much stock it actual physical things. On the opposite end are the agnostics. A true agnostic believes in nothing spiritual. Matter of fact they don't believe in anything that they can't see, hear or feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawcash Posted August 16, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 69 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 46 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/22/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, unworthyservant said: A true agnostic believes in nothing spiritual. Matter of fact they don't believe in anything that they can't see, hear or feel. Most people I know who claim to be agnostics say they believe there probably is a "God" but when can't really know him personally. Hence the term agnostic A=No, Gnostic= knowledge or unknowable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unworthyservant Posted August 16, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 96 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 645 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 298 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/11/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 16, 2019 More succinct, but the same basic idea. Yes most agnostics that I've ever encountered say they don't discount but since they can't have actual physical knowledge they can't believe anything on faith alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlelambseativy Posted August 17, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 230 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,941 Content Per Day: 0.95 Reputation: 2,003 Days Won: 14 Joined: 02/08/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted August 17, 2019 Believe me when I say I am making no excuses for the PCA or PCC, however once they take money from the government in tax rebates etc. they have to tow the government line. On the other hand it appears that within this body so many have abandoned the Word of God for friendship of the LGBTQ and desire to have more people join the church and donate that God and the gospel is the first to go. It’s the..,if Jesus were here today He would see and understand and not make these pronouncements....theory. False though it is, since He does not change His Word, and the novelty of befriending them within a church is what is splitting and closing churches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned by Grace Posted August 17, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 309 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 350 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/07/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted August 17, 2019 23 hours ago, unworthyservant said: Sorry, JustPassingThrough, the question was rhetorical. I was being facetious. Thanks and God Bless unworthyservant, I have enjoyed your post in several of the different topics until now. This statement of yours about being facetious, unless I'm reading it wrong, doesn't have a place here given the seriousness of the topic, and the purpose of the forum. We all love to joke around and have fun, but being that you didn't say that at the end of your post, or shortly after, you lead people down a dishonest path, and I don't see that being appropriate here. I don't think any of us are dismal faced douagers without a sense of humor, but I think you need to consider your intentions for all our sakes before you post again. I love you and look forward to more topics and posts from you - Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unworthyservant Posted August 17, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 96 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 645 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 298 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/11/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, Littlelambseativy said: Believe me when I say I am making no excuses for the PCA or PCC, however once they take money from the government in tax rebates etc. they have to tow the government line. On the other hand it appears that within this body so many have abandoned the Word of God for friendship of the LGBTQ and desire to have more people join the church and donate that God and the gospel is the first to go. It’s the..,if Jesus were here today He would see and understand and not make these pronouncements....theory. False though it is, since He does not change His Word, and the novelty of befriending them within a church is what is splitting and closing churches. I believe that we should show God's love by our actions and welcome with open arms any sinner who wishes to learn about God. As for governmental rules for churches, to my understanding churches aren't subject to inclusion rules. At least they didn't used to be. Now you last point is more what I see. In order to fill the pews and thus the OFFERING PLATE they are willing to compromise the Gospel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unworthyservant Posted August 17, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 96 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 645 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 298 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/11/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Seasoned by Grace said: unworthyservant, I have enjoyed your post in several of the different topics until now. This statement of yours about being facetious, unless I'm reading it wrong, doesn't have a place here given the seriousness of the topic, and the purpose of the forum. We all love to joke around and have fun, but being that you didn't say that at the end of your post, or shortly after, you lead people down a dishonest path, and I don't see that being appropriate here. I don't think any of us are dismal faced douagers without a sense of humor, but I think you need to consider your intentions for all our sakes before you post again. I love you and look forward to more topics and posts from you - Dave Sorry, maybe facetious was not the best word there. I meant that the whys that I ask are actually obvious answers according to God's word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlelambseativy Posted August 17, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 230 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,941 Content Per Day: 0.95 Reputation: 2,003 Days Won: 14 Joined: 02/08/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted August 17, 2019 But! The point is that most LGBTQ want nothing to do with the church! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Mclees Posted August 17, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 158 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 1,915 Content Per Day: 0.80 Reputation: 910 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/15/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 hours ago, unworthyservant said: I believe that we should show God's love by our actions and welcome with open arms any sinner who wishes to learn about God. As for governmental rules for churches, to my understanding churches aren't subject to inclusion rules. At least they didn't used to be. Now you last point is more what I see. In order to fill the pews and thus the OFFERING PLATE they are willing to compromise the Gospel. You just said a mouthful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Mclees Posted August 17, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 158 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 1,915 Content Per Day: 0.80 Reputation: 910 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/15/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted August 17, 2019 On 8/16/2019 at 1:47 PM, unworthyservant said: Amen, Kristin. I simply posed the question due to that recent fiasco with the Presbyterian church. You hit the nail on the head when you say MOST of the world is lost. I believe that it's also the case that many who think they are saved are among those. By the way, my understanding of agnostic is that it is a opposite of the word Gnostic. The Gnostic believed that everything was spiritual and didn't take much stock it actual physical things. On the opposite end are the agnostics. A true agnostic believes in nothing spiritual. Matter of fact they don't believe in anything that they can't see, hear or feel. They would get along well with scientists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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