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16 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

The first 12 Apostles were appointed by Christ.  Matthias was selected by lot after the Ascension.  Yet Paul says he was least of the Apostles because he persecuted the Church.

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Montana Marv

 

 

Hi MM,

And that would be a good topic to look at - the difference between the 12 apostles and the later apostles.

Marilyn.

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16 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

This city was taken once those of Judea fled to the mountains when they saw the A/ set up.  When you see standing, they left.  Trampled by the Gentiles for 42 months.  Yes taken by the A/C, F.P and the Dragon at the end to prepare for Armageddon.

The thing is there is not enough room in Jerusalem for these armies.  1.5 billion with more than 200,000,000 horses will occupy more than 500 square miles in a dense formation.  More than the area of the Valley of Megiddo where Armageddon takes place, the winepress.

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Montana Marv

Hi MM,

`Assemble and come, all you nations, and gather all AROUND, cause your mighty ones to go down there. Let the nations be awakened and come up to the Valley of Jehoshaphat' for there I will sit to judge ALL THE SURROUNDING NATIONS. Put in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe, come go down for the WINEPRESS IS FULL,...` (Joel 3: 11 & 12)

That clearly tells us that the nations are gathered in the valley of Jehoshaphat (outside Jerusalem) AND THE SURROUNDING AREA. And that is THE WINEPRESS.

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On 8/22/2019 at 4:38 AM, Justin Adams said:

To answer the OP. If you look at the constellations, you will see a 90 minute window of the Leo and Virgo alignments that may signify the birth of Yeshua. Approx bc 2. This might work out correctly if the Shofar is also blown in the correct season. A herald.

The Hebrews did not have TV and cell phones and internet. They read stuff and observed the heavens as it was their calendar. It was their life and much is written of these ideas in the inter-testament period of hundreds of years of scholarship. This is lost to us since if it don't come from the pulpit or our carefully worded doctrines, then for us it is non extant. And you can be sure that is partly intentional.

If you care to observe the future alignments, you might see them again aligned. The sign of the Son of Man may be just as simple as that.

The problem I have with all such views is that such things would mean nothing to most of the people of the earth.

Matt. 24:30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn...

What I see indicated here is some sign that is recognizable to the vast majority of the world as being associated with Christ.

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50 minutes ago, WilliamL said:

The problem I have with all such views is that such things would mean nothing to most of the people of the earth.

Matt. 24:30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn...

What I see indicated here is some sign that is recognizable to the vast majority of the world as being associated with Christ.

Nothing?? They did not have TV and cell phones and anything to do except read, discuss and watch the heavens. It was their calendar. It is what they DID. The Israelis were ALWAYS looking at the sky. They needed seasons and day-times for their work and sacrifices. They needed to know seed-time and harvest and the learned Hebrews were always wondering about the stars and their portents.

This is written to Israelis, not 21st century technocrats. If we continue to be ignorant of the writers and the readers addressed, we will miss a great deal. Look at all the hype about blood moons etc. Yes, for sure EVERYONE was looking up then. (except me I guess).

If we do not TELL the 'majority of the world' how will they know to look??

If you study the sky charts and are interested in that astronomy aspect (not astrology that's for pagans) you will observe much. If all you do is watch TV then by the time it gets to the news it will already be too late.

You can be sure the 'Tribes' will notice it. Oh yeah!!

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12 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

This is written to Israelis, not 21st century technocrats.

Israelis are 21st century technocrats.  And few are Christians, and therefore interested in looking at the constellations for signs of Christ's return.

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All,

Sorry I have been side tracked. Now back to the OP.

God`s word explains itself and thus we see what the sign is.

`Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the SIGN OF THE SON OF MAN will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn and they will SEE THE SON OF MAN coming on the clouds of heaven with power and GREAT GLORY.` (Matt. 24: 29 - 31)

So we read that the lights of heaven are darkened, then the sign which all see, the Lord`s GREAT GLORY, a great light shining through the darkness. This is what the prophet Zechariah is explaining -

`It shall come to pass in that day that there will be NO light; the lights will diminish. It will be one day known to the Lord - neither day nor night. BUT at evening it shall happen that IT WILL BE LIGHT.` (Zech. 14: 6 & 7)

All the earth will see the LIGHT OF THE GLORY OF THE LORD coming from heaven to earth. The Lord`s LIGHT, HIS GLORY is like the sun shining in its strength. (Rev. 1: 16) A clear and visible SIGN that all will see.

Marilyn.

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2 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

All,

Sorry I have been side tracked. Now back to the OP.

God`s word explains itself and thus we see what the sign is.

`Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the SIGN OF THE SON OF MAN will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn and they will SEE THE SON OF MAN coming on the clouds of heaven with power and GREAT GLORY.` (Matt. 24: 29 - 31)

So we read that the lights of heaven are darkened, then the sign which all see, the Lord`s GREAT GLORY, a great light shining through the darkness. This is what the prophet Zechariah is explaining -

`It shall come to pass in that day that there will be NO light; the lights will diminish. It will be one day known to the Lord - neither day nor night. BUT at evening it shall happen that IT WILL BE LIGHT.` (Zech. 14: 6 & 7)

All the earth will see the LIGHT OF THE GLORY OF THE LORD coming from heaven to earth. The Lord`s LIGHT, HIS GLORY is like the sun shining in its strength. (Rev. 1: 16) A clear and visible SIGN that all will see.

Marilyn.

Hi Marilyn

I agree with this...the sign they will see IS the Son of Man coming in the clouds!

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