Guest Evgen Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 20 minutes ago, enoob57 said: ...so I am very careful to give out what is formed by His Word in a studied context of when spoken.... OK. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Evgen Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, Still Alive said: Meaning, I don't need to be verbose. It's why the link is in my tag line in the first place. It's a very important issue to me.:) OK. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted August 19, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 19, 2019 12 hours ago, Blood Bought 1953 said:   Yes, I understand where the disbelief and reluctance comes from— I was shocked too, when I first discovered it......however .......here it is .... King James Bible I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. God did create hell but He did not create evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted August 19, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 107 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,820 Content Per Day: 1.30 Reputation: 4,800 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted August 19, 2019 I: Sinners did not create hell as the OP states that Psalm 9:15 teaches. Psalm 9:15-16: "The nations have sunk down in the pit which they made; In the net which they hid, their own foot is caught. The LORD is known by the judgment He executes; The wicked is snared in the work of his own hands. Meditation. Selah " This is a teaching by David not about hell, but about how the wicked will fall into their own trap.  Like when Haman had a gallows for hanging Mordecai built. Who was actually hung there? Haman himself. He "sunk down in the pit he made" and "his own foot was caught in the net he hid." II: God did not create evil as the King James says in Isaiah 45:7. "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace and create evil: I the Lord do all these things " The Hebrew word there is better translated as calamity, sorrow, disaster......not a vile wickedness in constant opposition to God. God is talking to King Cyrus here explaining how he is going to use him. And then he tells him why - because he is sovereign can does what he, alone, chooses to do. He is explaining his sovereignty to Cyrus. III: The truth is just the opposite.  Adam brought evil into the world. God created hell.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted August 20, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.88 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted August 20, 2019 6 hours ago, missmuffet said: God did create hell but He did not create evil.  The ones that DO evil.....who created them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted August 20, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 20, 2019 4 hours ago, Blood Bought 1953 said:  The ones that DO evil.....who created them? Humans have free will. Some are evil. God has allowed evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted August 20, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.88 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 minute ago, missmuffet said: Humans have free will. Some are evil. God has allowed evil.  Yes......God valued freedom so much , he risked the existence of evil.Some say without evil we would never understand love.Others say there was a negative side to His plan for Mankind, that was fulfilled by Satan and His followers.I don’t really have any answers......just kinda theorizing here..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelcla Posted August 20, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 3 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 24 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 16 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/09/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/10/1990 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Hell or Heaven are just in our imaginations. Everything is present on this earth so don't be confused about these things because your karma is everything. If you understand the spirit of love, truth and honesty you can feel like heaven atmosphere on the earth. Its totally depends upon your Karma and will power. Most of the people said god is everywhere so according to this theory heaven or hell aren't particular place where you can meet to the GOD after die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted August 20, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.88 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted August 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, michaelcla said: Hell or Heaven are just in our imaginations. Everything is present on this earth so don't be confused about these things because your karma is everything. If you understand the spirit of love, truth and honesty you can feel like heaven atmosphere on the earth. Its totally depends upon your Karma and will power. Most of the people said god is everywhere so according to this theory heaven or hell aren't particular place where you can meet to the GOD after die. Â Interesting stuff......what do you think about the Christian Faith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted August 20, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,605 Content Per Day: 3.97 Reputation: 7,795 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted August 20, 2019 3 hours ago, michaelcla said: Hell or Heaven are just in our imaginations. Everything is present on this earth so don't be confused about these things because your karma is everything. If you understand the spirit of love, truth and honesty you can feel like heaven atmosphere on the earth. Its totally depends upon your Karma and will power. Most of the people said god is everywhere so according to this theory heaven or hell aren't particular place where you can meet to the GOD after die. Molinism, named after 16th-century Spanish Jesuit theologian Luis de Molina, is a philosophical doctrine which attempts to reconcile the providence of God with human free will. Is this your belief? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts