In God We Trust???

[JustPassingThru]

25 minutes ago, unworthyservant said:

it was Christ who told us how we are to show that we don't love it more than Him. GIVE IT UP!

Which is what I, being a successful General Contractor who carried $500 in my pocket every day, GAVE IT ALL UP, 28 years ago to come to a third world country without a penny in my pocket or any financial support from any church or organization, to preach the Gospel only relying on, putting all of my faith in: 

I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.  Psa 37:25

And today, 28 years later, by the endless Mercy, ever abounding Grace and infinite Love of/from my Father, I can truly say without any hesitancy:

...my cup runneth over. Psa 23:5

He has abundantly supplied, 24/7 for these 28 years, all of my needs, financially, physically and Spiritually, ...now, how about you?

Lord bless

[unworthyservant]

8 minutes ago, JustPassingThru said:

Which is what I, being a successful General Contractor who carried $500 in my pocket every day, GAVE IT ALL UP, 28 years ago to come to a third world country without a penny in my pocket or any financial support from any church or organization, to preach the Gospel only relying on, putting all of my faith in: 

I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.  Psa 37:25

And today, 28 years later, by the endless Mercy, ever abounding Grace and infinite Love of/from my Father, I can truly say without any hesitancy:

...my cup runneth over. Psa 23:5

He has abundantly supplied, 24/7 for these 28 years, all of my needs, financially, physically and Spiritually, ...now, how about you?

Lord bless

In other words you put your faith into action and did what Christ taught instead of finding every reason around it.

[Not me]

33 minutes ago, unworthyservant said:

 So, Capitalism is based on the simple theory that if someone is successful they will grow their wealth and be an example of the earthly riches that you too can attain by using the principles of Capitalism. 

This is not a definition of capitalism. But one possibility that the fruit of capitalism can cause. But not the definition of capitalism itself.

Capitalism is the right to do what you want with your stuff. Whether that be good or bad.   

And yes there will be people that want to control what other people do with their stuff. This is what capitalism is against. Someone forcing someone else to do something with the fruit of their labor. This in God’s economy is called stealing. 

For the freedom to choose is what capitalism protects. And God has given us the right to choose and the right to be wrong. 

In Christ, Not me 

Edited August 18, 2019 by Not me

[unworthyservant]

8 minutes ago, Not me said:

This is not a definition of capitalism. But one possibility that the fruit of capitalism can cause. But not the definition of capitalism itself.

Capitalism is the right to do what you want with your stuff. Whether that be good or bad.   

And yes there will be people that want to control what other people do with their stuff. This is what capitalism is against. Someone forcing someone else to do something with the fruit of their labor. This in God’s economy is called stealing. 

For the freedom to choose is what capitalism protects. And God has given us the right to choose and the right to be wrong. 

In Christ, Not me 

You are right that it's not an actual definition. It's a comment on the fruits of the principle. And actually it's not even capitalism that's the root of the problem. Christians who use it to their own benefit and gather worldly treasures for themselves instead of using their good fortune for God's will are the problem as I see it. Christ didn't endorse any particular monetary or economic system for society, He simply gave rules for those who wish to follow Him. The original premise was the wisdom of using a slogan on our money to show a trust in God. It has now become more about Capitalism in general and I guess I stated my opinion in a way that sounded as if I was attempting to define Capitalism, so to set the record straight, while I believe that to the best of my ability that my quotes from Christ are accurate everything else is me using Christ's teachings to explain how I believe Christians should conduct economic affairs. There has also been a little of what I call "prosperity gospel" that has crept in so I posted separately on that. Thanks for your comments and God bless

[Not me]

4 minutes ago, unworthyservant said:

You are right that it's not an actual definition. It's a comment on the fruits of the principle. And actually it's not even capitalism that's the root of the problem. Christians who use it to their own benefit and gather worldly treasures for themselves instead of using their good fortune for God's will are the problem as I see it. Christ didn't endorse any particular monetary or economic system for society, He simply gave rules for those who wish to follow Him. The original premise was the wisdom of using a slogan on our money to show a trust in God. It has now become more about Capitalism in general and I guess I stated my opinion in a way that sounded as if I was attempting to define Capitalism, so to set the record straight, while I believe that to the best of my ability that my quotes from Christ are accurate everything else is me using Christ's teachings to explain how I believe Christians should conduct economic affairs. There has also been a little of what I call "prosperity gospel" that has crept in so I posted separately on that. Thanks for your comments and God bless

Their will always be people that use good for evil. 

God bless you too, Not me 

[unworthyservant]

Just now, Not me said:

Their will always be people that use good for evil. 

God bless you too, Not me 

The thing that's most disturbing to me is how many of those people not only claim to be Christian but find solace in the churches that teach that the accumulation of wealth for ones self is of God. While the wealth may well be of God, it may also be a test to see what you'll do with it.

[Not me]

16 minutes ago, unworthyservant said:

The thing that's most disturbing to me is how many of those people not only claim to be Christian but find solace in the churches that teach that the accumulation of wealth for ones self is of God. While the wealth may well be of God, it may also be a test to see what you'll do with it.

I think this is just a sign of the times, evil man will wax worse and worse. In the Church and out of the Church. Paul uses the term “false brethren”. Which is for God to judge, I just want oil in my lamp, and to be found doing His will. 

So blessings and peace my fellow laborer in Christ, be well and God speed. Not me 

[unworthyservant]

Just now, Not me said:

I think this is just a sign of the times, evil man will wax worse and worse. In the Church and out of the Church. Paul uses the term “false brethren”. Which is for God to judge, I just want oil in my lamp, and to be found doing His will. 

So blessings and peace my fellow laborer in Christ, be well and God speed. Not me 

That's all one could hope, to have oil in your lamp so it's burning bright to light the way all the way. All we can do is shine our light to the world and we can't shine if we're out of oil.

[johnthebaptist]

21 hours ago, unworthyservant said:

A Sunday morning thought. All around the world the US dollar is seen as a symbol of Free Market Capitalism. On that dollar is printed the phrase "In God We Trust." This phrase first appeared on the 2 cent coin minted in 1864 and then added to other money. The question is should God's name be associated with the money that's the symbol of our Capitalistic economy? Does God really support our economic system? When asked about paying tribute to Caesar, Christ used a coin with Caesar's image on it and said "Give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's". Have we in our piety put a reference to God on our money, thinking that somehow God actually will bless our economy for it? Should we be using trust in God to bolster faith in our worldly monetary system?

The problem, I think, in a socialistic economy is that there is no incentive to work hard. It's wrong, I think, for hard working people to be required to support those who are too lazy to work. I think capitalism, with reasonable restrictions, is a better system.

[enoob57]

1 hour ago, johnthebaptist said:

The problem, I think, in a socialistic economy is that there is no incentive to work hard. It's wrong, I think, for hard working people to be required to support those who are too lazy to work. I think capitalism, with reasonable restrictions, is a better system.

If your focus is upon the earth only …. but we work not as earthly reward but for Jesus' glory! So from that perspective it doesn't matter what political system God places us in we are set free to remain in the proper perspective.