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There are many who do this, without applying their own study to confirm what they have been taught or told. I want to cover 1000yr reign, The 144000, 2 witnesses, new Jerusalem, scorpions, dispensation, rapture, 7yr tribulation, all of which have been largely misinterpreted.

I will start with what most believe to be a 1000yr reign. In Rev20, 1000 is chilia in greek, & for those with  an interlinear bible, you will see that this is plural, so at least 2000yrs. We have been in the millennium since Acts2 v16-17, where Joel said "...in the last days, says God, that I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh..." (gentiles), which started there at pentecost. 2Pet 3v8 says a day is a 1000yrs, & a 1000yrs is a day in God's eyes, last 2 days, 2000yrs, up to present day.

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The 1000 years will start on the day of the return of our LORD Jesus Christ.. The millennium is still a future event..  Read from Revelation 19: verse 11 to the end of Revelation chapter 20 and you will see the chronological order of events. Covering the return of Jesus and the battle of armageddon to the 1000 year reign of Jesus with His saints and at the end of the 1000 years the final satanic rebellion and then the last judgement and reading on into Revelation 21 the coming out of heaven of our eternal home the New Jerusalem..

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2 hours ago, Yeshua153 said:

I will start with what most believe to be a 1000yr reign. In Rev20, 1000 is chilia in greek, & for those with  an interlinear bible, you will see that this is plural, so at least 2000yrs.

Actually that's not true in the text. It's probably speaking to the individuals of the group that each reign for a thousand years. 

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(figuratively) emphatic, total inclusiveness, showing no one (nothing) is left out. See also "the Millennium" in the HELPS prophecy-guide.

["Ten" in Scripture can already express the symbolic meaning "completely" (inclusively) so 5507 (xílioi) as the cube of 10 ("a thousand") powerfully stresses the meaning "full/inclusive" (totality).]

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Not that it could not be more than 1000 years, just that Jesus is speaking to the idea of all inclusive events with a millennium of parallels: One where there is a monarchy and one of imprisonment. In that sense there would be two thousand years, two thousand year periods running parallel.

3 hours ago, Yeshua153 said:

2Pet 3v8 says a day is a 1000yrs, & a 1000yrs is a day in God's eyes, last 2 days, 2000yrs, up to present day.

Yeah, not really. Peter took that quote from here, "For a thousand years in thy sight [are but] as yesterday when it is past, and [as] a watch in the night." - Psalm 90:4

So we then have two options, a day or a watch in the night. Most seize upon the equivalency of day = 1000. But Moses seemed to think it was also equivalent to a 2-6 hour period in the night.

This simply says God is not bound by time and that we cannot reckon God's existence in relation to our own in terms of time. 

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5 hours ago, Adstar said:

The 1000 years will start on the day of the return of our LORD Jesus Christ.. The millennium is still a future event..

Yes, after of the end of the 24hours day 1,335 as was prophesied by Daniel chap. 12.  Here begins the millennium of Christ, that is the seventh and last millennium or seventh and last Day, the Lord's Day.

Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.

And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?

And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?  

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5 hours ago, Adstar said:

Read from Revelation 19: verse 11 to the end of Revelation chapter 20 and you will see the chronological order of events. Covering the return of Jesus and the battle of armageddon to the 1000 year reign of Jesus with His saints ...

Yes, perfect. 

Rev.12:v. 7-11

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

And the great Dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

11 And they - Michael and his followers - overcame him - overcome the dragon - by the blood of the Lamb,  - by the blood of JESUS -  and by the Word of their testimony; and they -  Michel and his followers  - loved not their lives unto the death.   Great and deep mistery.   Hard to discern by the letter of Scriptures, it is possible only by the Spirit of JESUS,  the testimony of JESUS is the spirit of prophecy.

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6 hours ago, Yeshua153 said:

There are many who do this, without applying their own study to confirm what they have been taught or told. I want to cover 1000yr reign, The 144000, 2 witnesses, new Jerusalem, scorpions, dispensation, rapture, 7yr tribulation, all of which have been largely misinterpreted.

I will start with what most believe to be a 1000yr reign. In Rev20, 1000 is chilia in greek, & for those with  an interlinear bible, you will see that this is plural, so at least 2000yrs. We have been in the millennium since Acts2 v16-17, where Joel said "...in the last days, says God, that I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh..." (gentiles), which started there at pentecost. 2Pet 3v8 says a day is a 1000yrs, & a 1000yrs is a day in God's eyes, last 2 days, 2000yrs, up to present day.

Welcome to the prophecy Forum,

As you can see your theories will be challenged. I am guessing, but since you have not finished your post yet, that you are a preterist, and I look forward to hearing your opinion here. Just so you know, You will take a lot of criticism, But there is a wonderful blessing to the preterist line of eschatology that all here will benefit from. My Mom was a preterist (partial), I am a dispensationalist, But not a hyper-dispensationalist. I Believe in a dual fulfillment of the rapture, One that is spiritual, and one that is physical and yet to come, Just like the Kingdom of God has this dual fulfillment. I Will probably take grief for this as well.

Wish you well presenting your theories.   

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8 hours ago, Adstar said:

... and at the end of the 1000 years the final satanic rebellion and then the last judgement ...

Yes, the people of God, the electeds of God, they will enter very soon in the Kingdom of God that is the celestial environment of the 3rd heaven, and will reign for a 1,000 years with the Lord.

Simultaneously the Beast of 7 heads and 10 horns, and the false prophet, the angel of abyss, the false messiah of the Jews, they both will be cast alive into the lake of fire,  and their followers will be condemned to eternal perdition. "And at the end of the 1000 years the final satanic rebellion" will happen, and then fire will come down from God out of heaven - the Word is God  -  and devoured them. 

And the Devil that deceived them will be cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the Beast - the Beast of 7 heads and 10 horns - and the false prophet, the false messiah of the Jews, the false lamb, the son of perdition, a former Cherub  -,  are,  and they willl be tormented day and night for ever and ever.  

A Great White Throne is placed in heaven and One will sit on it, and the earth and the heaven will flee away from Him who will be sit on WhiteThrone, and there will not be found no place for them.  Why?

It because from now on, i.e. from this event,  will be established the heaven of the heavens for ever and ever, for all Eternity, as it was in the garden of Eden before the rebellion and fall of the angels which kept not their first estate - their angelical nature and they corrupted themselves, they left their own habitation, so they were reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of this  Great Day, the Lord's Day.

2 Peter 3:v.7-14
Our beloved Apostle Peter prophsied, saying: 

7 But the heavens and the earth, which ARE NOW, by the same Word are kept in store, reserved unto FIRE against the Day of Judgment -
 the Lord's Day - and perdition of ungodly men.

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one Day.

9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

10 But the Day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; - yes, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation  -  in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the WORKS that are therein shall be burned up.     -  This prophecy will fulfil LITERALLY henceforeward   -

11 Seeing then that all these things shall BE DISSOLVED, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the Day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

13 Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of Him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

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11 hours ago, Yeshua153 said:

There are many who do this, without applying their own study to confirm what they have been taught or told. I want to cover 1000yr reign, The 144000, 2 witnesses, new Jerusalem, scorpions, dispensation, rapture, 7yr tribulation, all of which have been largely misinterpreted.

I will start with what most believe to be a 1000yr reign. In Rev20, 1000 is chilia in greek, & for those with  an interlinear bible, you will see that this is plural, so at least 2000yrs. We have been in the millennium since Acts2 v16-17, where Joel said "...in the last days, says God, that I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh..." (gentiles), which started there at pentecost. 2Pet 3v8 says a day is a 1000yrs, & a 1000yrs is a day in God's eyes, last 2 days, 2000yrs, up to present day.

I have to cut this short, but will continue....

Many do not read the book of Revelation literally as God wants them to do. They give their own interpretation and their own words to the book of revelation.  The key to reading the book of Revelation correctly is consistent hermeneutic.  You are going to have a difficult time with this thread.

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The letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;

6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Spirit teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

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