Justin Adams Posted August 31, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,605 Content Per Day: 3.97 Reputation: 7,795 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted August 31, 2019 I think perhaps this topic is flawed. Yeshua/Jesus/God designed all of it before the world began. He died in His mind and the mind of God then, before we came along. It was the plan to sacrifice Himself. To die was His aim as the pre-extant God of all that is, seen and unseen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted August 31, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,934 Content Per Day: 3.07 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 31, 2019 13 hours ago, maryjayne said: May I have your scriptural references for your stance? Thou shalt not kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted August 31, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,934 Content Per Day: 3.07 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 31, 2019 11 hours ago, Justin Adams said: I think perhaps this topic is flawed. Yeshua/Jesus/God designed all of it before the world began. He died in His mind and the mind of God then, before we came along. It was the plan to sacrifice Himself. To die was His aim as the pre-extant God of all that is, seen and unseen. God did not design the killing of Jesus it was Wicked man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted August 31, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted August 31, 2019 13 minutes ago, R. Hartono said: God did not design the killing of Jesus it was Wicked man. Perhaps you could expound a bit on how God's plan of salvation for mankind was to come about then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted September 1, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,934 Content Per Day: 3.07 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 1, 2019 36 minutes ago, BeauJangles said: Perhaps you could expound a bit on how God's plan of salvation for mankind was to come about then. God knew their Wicked plan even b4 the creation n God need to show death could not defeat Him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted September 1, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted September 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, R. Hartono said: God knew their Wicked plan even b4 the creation n God need to show death could not defeat Him Amen. This is true. But in answer to my question, what do you think God's plan for the salvation of mankind detailed, if you would? I'd be very interested in what you have to say concerning this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted September 1, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,934 Content Per Day: 3.07 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 1, 2019 35 minutes ago, BeauJangles said: Amen. This is true. But in answer to my question, what do you think God's plan for the salvation of mankind detailed, if you would? I'd be very interested in what you have to say concerning this. His plan was to come as flesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted September 1, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted September 1, 2019 1 minute ago, R. Hartono said: His plan was to come as flesh Yes, this is true. Anything more to the picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted September 1, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Just now, maryjayne said: And?? What next? He did come as flesh - He came as Jesus. Then what was the next step? Ever get the feeling this is going to be like a long awaited tooth extraction? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted September 1, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted September 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, maryjayne said: Patience Iago ......... No Fear Shakespeare: Othello: Act 3 Scene 3 Page 20 https://www.sparknotes.com/nofear/shakespeare/othello/page_166 Never, Iago. My thoughts of revenge are flowing through me like a violent river, never turning back to love, only flowing toward full revenge that’ll swallow them up. I swear to God I’ll get revenge. (he kneels) Shakespeare's words and not mine. I'm a real forgiving kinda guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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