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6 hours ago, Jonathan Dane said:

Again, your entire argument is based on paranoia, suspicion and false assumptions. Rather than even discuss The Family, (or any of my posts) you resort to attacking the character and motives of the messenger and dismiss their claim as you label them as a shill, globalist, never Trump, liberal, Leftist, Deep State, Fake News.

In case you did not notice, I did agree with your criticism of Dominionist teachings, But because you were too infuriated you did not see this? You are a Never Trumper, You admitted as much, You are a Globalist, By Your Anti-Trump stance, In Your Hatred of Trump You listen to and use the fake news spoon fed to you by the Liberal media, Just like you use this miniseries to base another Anti-Trump attack on Him... Sodoes that make you a shill??? This comment is not doing anything to dissuade my opinion in the least bit.

 

6 hours ago, Jonathan Dane said:

Example: on the "Profile of a Man" post, you made the claim that the AC must be Jewish. I unraveled your argument and even used your own proof texts against you.

You unraveled Nothing of the Sort.... The Antichrist is the anti-messiah. Common sense tells us he will be  Jew. Jared Kushner is a candidate, Trump is not. Kushner is a Jew, Trump is not. The peace plan is Kushner's peace plan, Not Trump's. Kushner is a "Prince" so to speak, and could be a "son of Perdition". Trump does not fit either of these qualifications. But even Kushner is still only a candidate Until he is revealed. 

 

6 hours ago, Jonathan Dane said:

How did you respond? Did you appeal to Scripture? No. You accused me of being a Leftist. (ad hominem and calumny). When I answered your false charge, did you apologize? No. You just adjusted your character attack. I then became a "globalist still." I answered that false charge. Now you are suggesting that perhaps I am a dominionist (even though I describe the doctrine as malignant). And now I'm paired with an Atheist/neverTrumper.

You paired yourself with an atheist and Never Trumper. Your obvious never trump attitude shows in all you have written here. Your ability to use Leftist media sourcing for your material as facts to prove your theory shows your ties to the leftists. If it walks like a duck, and Quacks like a duck....

 

7 hours ago, Jonathan Dane said:

Rather than letting my claims or a documentary speak for themself, you simply assume the worse and dismiss them out of hand and announce to the forum:  "This man can't be tusted." (in so many words)

Yes, Exactly, I Have made that conclusion based on the facts presented. I Have shown a deliberate Never Trump agenda in your writings, because I have let the claims speak for themselves. Your words speak for you, and your words show a Hatred for Trump. 

 

7 hours ago, Jonathan Dane said:

At the end of the day, Trump supporters' tactics are: Either one is for Trump or they are not. And if they are not, they are a suspicious threat and motivated by _____. The end result is a person above any critisism. This is the kind of blind adherence I would expect if the man was truly the AC.

Again, I am not a Trump supporter, Nor do I work for his campaign. I do not have a book I am promoting, I am just saying you are wrong, like all those who accused BHO of being the Ac were wrong. I am objectively looking at your claims and coming to a conclusion on your character and your motives, and your means at arriving at that conclusion. If you cannot handle that, do not post here. I do this with everyone's posts here as I do elsewhere. 

And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret. But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. (eph. 5:11-13)

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19 minutes ago, Jonathan Dane said:

How do you suggest Christians prepare? (It's a serious question.)

Embracing the Truth, who is Christ, not in many studies as all the works of mankind will be burned up. Only the gold and sliver will not be burned and those works are born of the Way the Truth and the Life.

It's likely we will be wrong about a great many things when the time comes, if we are alive at that point in future history. What knowledge we need is that of the salvation of Jesus even when confronted with the reign of the beast and certain death of the physical body. In the end the 'Who' will not be as important as the 'What' of the consequences of the choice with which we will be faced.

Do we choose to live and then lose our lives? Or do we choose death and live in Christ forever? This is the question we must all ask ourselves and seek our Father in spirit and truth for guidance and strength.

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2 minutes ago, dhchristian said:

In case you did not notice, I did agree with your criticism of Dominionist teachings, But because you were too infuriated you did not see this? You are a Never Trumper, You admitted as much, You are a Globalist, By Your Anti-Trump stance, In Your Hatred of Trump You listen to and use the fake news spoon fed to you by the Liberal media, Just like you use this miniseries to base another Anti-Trump attack on Him... Sodoes that make you a shill??? This comment is not doing anything to dissuade my opinion in the least bit.

 

You unraveled Nothing of the Sort.... The Antichrist is the anti-messiah. Common sense tells us he will be  Jew. Jared Kushner is a candidate, Trump is not. Kushner is a Jew, Trump is not. The peace plan is Kushner's peace plan, Not Trump's. Kushner is a "Prince" so to speak, and could be a "son of Perdition". Trump does not fit either of these qualifications. But even Kushner is still only a candidate Until he is revealed. 

 

You paired yourself with an atheist and Never Trumper. Your obvious never trump attitude shows in all you have written here. Your ability to use Leftist media sourcing for your material as facts to prove your theory shows your ties to the leftists. If it walks like a duck, and Quacks like a duck....

 

Yes, Exactly, I Have made that conclusion based on the facts presented. I Have shown a deliberate Never Trump agenda in your writings, because I have let the claims speak for themselves. Your words speak for you, and your words show a Hatred for Trump. 

 

Again, I am not a Trump supporter, Nor do I work for his campaign. I do not have a book I am promoting, I am just saying you are wrong, like all those who accused BHO of being the Ac were wrong. I am objectively looking at your claims and coming to a conclusion on your character and your motives, and your means at arriving at that conclusion. If you cannot handle that, do not post here. I do this with everyone's posts here as I do elsewhere. 

And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret. But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. (eph. 5:11-13)

I only read your opening paragraph (that's plenty).

Here's one example of your false assumptions:

You say: "You are a Never Trumper, You admitted as much, You are a Globalist, By Your Anti-Trump stance, In Your Hatred of Trump"

So your logic is this: Because I am an anti-Trumper, therefore I must be a globalist because Trump is a nationalist. Okay, let me try that logic on you. If you lived in Germany in 1944 and were privy to things that made you anti-Hitler, would that by necessity make you a globalist because Hitler was a nationalist? Would that have made you anti-Germany? Guess what? The SS would have thought so. 

Don't like the Germany comparison? Okay. What if you became truly convinced that our next president is corrupt, but it just so happens that he is a nationalist? Are you required to support him to avoid being called a globalist? This is just one example of the absurd ways in which you think and the twisted standard you hold me to. One only has to read my testimony to know that I am not a globalist. You also know that. But truth matters nothing to you. You must always attack and do so falsely. You always have to make this personal -- like clockwork.

Do you know what? Out of some at least 50 replies we've exchanged back and forth on this forum, there is only one that you never responded to. Just one. Do you know which one that is? It just so happens to be one I specifically asked you to give an "amen" to:

"I think you and I can agree with each other on this --  In the end, when all is said and done, God will have the last word. The rest of us, like Job, will sit with closed mouths. Amen?"

Crickets....(chirp chirp).........You never replied. (silence)

My words speak for themselves - as do yours. On rare occasions, it's our silence that speaks loudest.

"We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned unto you, and ye have not lamented." (Matt 11:17)
 

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1 hour ago, Diaste said:

Embracing the Truth, who is Christ, not in many studies as all the works of mankind will be burned up. Only the gold and sliver will not be burned and those works are born of the Way the Truth and the Life.

It's likely we will be wrong about a great many things when the time comes, if we are alive at that point in future history. What knowledge we need is that of the salvation of Jesus even when confronted with the reign of the beast and certain death of the physical body. In the end the 'Who' will not be as important as the 'What' of the consequences of the choice with which we will be faced.

Do we choose to live and then lose our lives? Or do we choose death and live in Christ forever? This is the question we must all ask ourselves and seek our Father in spirit and truth for guidance and strength.

I can agree with your sentiments. But that sounds like something an unbeliever must prepare for, to put their trust in Christ. Believers have already done so and are secure in Christ, and therefore will not and cannot accept the Mark. All who take the Mark are damned. You cannot be saved and damned at the same time.

 

 

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Just now, Jonathan Dane said:

Do you know what? Out of some at least 50 replies we've exchanged back and forth on this forum, there is only one that you never responded to. Just one. Do you know which one that is? It just so happens to be one I specifically asked you to give an "amen" to:

"I think you and I can agree with each other on this --  In the end, when all is said and done, God will have the last word. The rest of us, like Job, will sit with closed mouths. Amen?"

Crickets....(chirp chirp).........You never replied. (silence)

My words speak for themselves - as do yours. On rare occasions, it's our silence that speaks loudest.

"We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned unto you, and ye have not lamented." (Matt 11:17)

That is because you had the last Word in that debate. I Never read the comment, Until now. Yes I agree with that statement in principle, God will have the last Word, and He is in control of our destiny. Look, I have agreed with you on some points as well throughout this debate, But the fundamental fallacy still exists, hopefully what I write below will help you to see this in your perspective. 

 

Just now, Jonathan Dane said:

So your logic is this: Because I am an anti-Trumper, therefore I must be a globalist because Trump is a nationalist. Okay, let me try that logic on you. If you lived in Germany in 1944 and were privy to things that made you anti-Hitler, would that by necessity make you a globalist because Hitler was a nationalist? Would that have made you anti-Germany? Guess what? The SS would have thought so. 

Don't like the Germany comparison? Okay. What if you became truly convinced that our next president is corrupt, but it just so happens that he is a nationalist? Are you required to support him to avoid being called a globalist? This is just one example of the absurd ways in which you think and the twisted standard you hold me to. One only has to read my testimony to know that I am not a globalist. You also know that. But truth matters nothing to you. You must always attack and do so falsely. You always have to make this personal -- like clockwork.

There You go again, Hitler was a Socialist, bent on controlling the World so he was a Globalist. Trump does not have those aspirations, so far as I can tell. So As you can see your analogy fails. Trump's stated foreign policy is a hands off approach to global conflict. He was against the War in Iraq, and Syria, He is trying to make peace with NoKo, he is even trying to Get the U.S. Out of Afghanistan.... The Globalists in the republican party are the War Hawks, Or as Eisenhower warned beware the military industrial complex (paraphrased)… Nationalist for Hitler's Germany meant the third Reich, Reich being a Global order. Trump has no such aspirations. This again is where you are falling victim to the liberal media's false characterization of Trump as Fascist. Even to make this comparison shows your Bias.

Since World war 2, the left has been trying to redefine Fascist Germany as a right wing movement, But this is a fallacy, yes they were right of the communists of the day, but they are still socialists, what many of your media are as well. Socialism is by its nature is Globalistic. That globalism can be of the national conquering kind like Hitler and Napolean, or Globalism of the diplomatic kind as in the U.N. and George Bush's thousand points of light New World order.

Trump believes in national sovereignty, which is far different than nationalism of the Nazi's. So Your analogy, and for that matter the medias attempts to portray DJT as a Fascist fall flat on their face. The whole construct of your arguments here are built on these sorts of similar fallacies as portrayed by the media Which has been my point from the outset of our discussions here.

National sovereignty is counter to Globalism, and is wholly Biblical. God confused the Language in Genesis 11 thereby creating the nations, and those nations as sovereign states will continue on into the Millennium (See Zech 14). The Goal of Satan is to unify nations in a global order. The first attempt was Nimrod and the tower of Babel, Where this mystery religion of the Harlot was born. Throughout history these are the beasts that the people of God have had to deal with, And the final one will be no different. This Globalism is Satan's attempt to Usurp God, who will in the end rule and reign over the nations with a Rod of Iron as the King of kings and Lord of lords (Rev 19:15-16).

   

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1 hour ago, Jonathan Dane said:

I can agree with your sentiments. But that sounds like something an unbeliever must prepare for, to put their trust in Christ. Believers have already done so and are secure in Christ, and therefore will not and cannot accept the Mark. All who take the Mark are damned. You cannot be saved and damned at the same time.

 

 

Well...then we would not have the warnings about the mark, would we?

Do you suppose it a simple thing to forego food water and shelter? Even for the sincere believer? 

And do we simply ignore the sincere believer that holds a somewhat different idea on how it will all play out?

And who can be prepared? It's a time like no other. There is no precedent. We cannot learn from another what it's like as it has not happened and never will again after this time.

I dont think it helps to be dismissive when a soul can be saved by one speaking, assisting in the readying of the mind and heart.

Encouragement and exhortation are everything and that comes from the brethren. 

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14 hours ago, dhchristian said:

That is because you had the last Word in that debate. I Never read the comment, Until now. Yes I agree with that statement in principle, God will have the last Word, and He is in control of our destiny. Look, I have agreed with you on some points as well throughout this debate, But the fundamental fallacy still exists, hopefully what I write below will help you to see this in your perspective. 

 

There You go again, Hitler was a Socialist, bent on controlling the World so he was a Globalist. Trump does not have those aspirations, so far as I can tell. So As you can see your analogy fails. Trump's stated foreign policy is a hands off approach to global conflict. He was against the War in Iraq, and Syria, He is trying to make peace with NoKo, he is even trying to Get the U.S. Out of Afghanistan.... The Globalists in the republican party are the War Hawks, Or as Eisenhower warned beware the military industrial complex (paraphrased)… Nationalist for Hitler's Germany meant the third Reich, Reich being a Global order. Trump has no such aspirations. This again is where you are falling victim to the liberal media's false characterization of Trump as Fascist. Even to make this comparison shows your Bias.

Since World war 2, the left has been trying to redefine Fascist Germany as a right wing movement, But this is a fallacy, yes they were right of the communists of the day, but they are still socialists, what many of your media are as well. Socialism is by its nature is Globalistic. That globalism can be of the national conquering kind like Hitler and Napolean, or Globalism of the diplomatic kind as in the U.N. and George Bush's thousand points of light New World order.

Trump believes in national sovereignty, which is far different than nationalism of the Nazi's. So Your analogy, and for that matter the medias attempts to portray DJT as a Fascist fall flat on their face. The whole construct of your arguments here are built on these sorts of similar fallacies as portrayed by the media Which has been my point from the outset of our discussions here.

National sovereignty is counter to Globalism, and is wholly Biblical. God confused the Language in Genesis 11 thereby creating the nations, and those nations as sovereign states will continue on into the Millennium (See Zech 14). The Goal of Satan is to unify nations in a global order. The first attempt was Nimrod and the tower of Babel, Where this mystery religion of the Harlot was born. Throughout history these are the beasts that the people of God have had to deal with, And the final one will be no different. This Globalism is Satan's attempt to Usurp God, who will in the end rule and reign over the nations with a Rod of Iron as the King of kings and Lord of lords (Rev 19:15-16).

   

Yeah, I knew you'd pull that deceptive line of reasoning, totally missing my point. That's why I added this part below, which you ignored altogether. Answer it please.

--- "Don't like the Germany comparison? Okay. What if you became truly convinced that our next president is corrupt, but it just so happens that he is a nationalist? Are you required to support him to avoid being called a globalist? This is just one example of the absurd ways in which you think and the twisted standard you hold me to. One only has to read my testimony to know that I am not a globalist. You also know that. But truth matters nothing to you. You must always attack and do so falsely. You always have to make this personal -- like clockwork."-

I AM NOT A GLOBALIST DHCHRISTIAN. I HAVE PLAINLY DENIED YOUR ACCUSATION. ARE YOU ACCUSSING ME OF LYING? YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO ATTACK MY VIEWS. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO CALL ME A LIAR AND ATTACK MY CHARACTER WITHOUT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE. PLEASE STOP.

As I have said, my testimony has been consistent on here and does reflect one ounce of globalist philosophy. You are making that up out of thin air. Provide one globalist quote I've made on here. Your charges are false and what's so awful is that you are fully aware they are false. On the Profile of a Man post, I gave my whole testimony for all to read. It does not fit a globalist philosophy.

What I find absolutely stunning is not that there are people like DHChristian in the world, it is that there have been dozens of Christians reading his obviously fallacious charges on here (I defer to my Profile of a Man post where he puked these fallacious charges out in a never-ending stream of vomit.),

AND AS A BROTHER IS PUBLICLY MALIGNED, NOT ONE BROTHER HAD (AND STILL HASN'T) THE GUTS TO COME TO MY DEFENSE. NOT ONE. ASTOUNDING TIMES WE LIVE IN. 

His reasoning is this, "Support Trump. If you cannot, you are a globalist spy and cannot be trusted."

This is really scary stuff folks. Are all of you just going to let a brother receive false allegations and say nothing? Do you think the Lord is not aware you are reading this? He sees. Shame on all of you.

By the way folks, do you not discern the focus of these comments? Are they on The Family documentary? No. DrChristian does not want to face that music. It's on my character. His reasoning is as follows: "You are a bad person and listen to bad people and therefore, you are  a liar."

I repeat, this is awful stuff and more awful that you all are silent.

I recount in my book how on the final blood moon of the heptad back in the fall in 2015, a man whom I had never met, came to me and prophesied, saying, "You will go on a difficult journey, alone."

It has truly come to pass. The LORD be praised.

 

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7 hours ago, Diaste said:

Well...then we would not have the warnings about the mark, would we?

Do you suppose it a simple thing to forego food water and shelter? Even for the sincere believer? 

And do we simply ignore the sincere believer that holds a somewhat different idea on how it will all play out?

And who can be prepared? It's a time like no other. There is no precedent. We cannot learn from another what it's like as it has not happened and never will again after this time.

I dont think it helps to be dismissive when a soul can be saved by one speaking, assisting in the readying of the mind and heart.

Encouragement and exhortation are everything and that comes from the brethren. 

I am not being dismissive. I said I agreed with your sentiments and still do. Yes, it will be difficult to forgo food and water. I was not speaking to the difficulty factor or even to the fact the Bible commands us not to take the mark. Nor was I referring to brothers who have a different idea on how things play out. All that's well and good. But you said we must "prepare." I simply asked, "How?" Assuming one is a Christian and knows not to take the Mark, beyond that, how does one prepare?

I hear post-tribs make the argument that pre-tribs will take the Mark because they won't be "prepared" for the tribulation. When I ask the question to post-tribs how they are "preparing" for a world set on fire, I don't get a clear response. As I see it, there is only one preparation we can do and that is to live spirit-filled lives in the Word of God and fellowship, something both pre and post-tribs do already. Beyond that, nothing can prepare you for the coming dark day -- nothing. Revelation says, "Blessed are those who die in the Lord." That is not a day one will want to live in. To die will be gain.

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Just now, Jonathan Dane said:

Yeah, I knew you'd pull that deceptive line of reasoning, totally missing my point. That's why I added this part below, which you ignored altogether. Answer it please.

--- "Don't like the Germany comparison? Okay. What if you became truly convinced that our next president is corrupt, but it just so happens that he is a nationalist? Are you required to support him to avoid being called a globalist? This is just one example of the absurd ways in which you think and the twisted standard you hold me to. One only has to read my testimony to know that I am not a globalist. You also know that. But truth matters nothing to you. You must always attack and do so falsely. You always have to make this personal -- like clockwork."-

I AM NOT A GLOBALIST. DRCHRISTIAN. I HAVE PLAINLY DENIED YOUR ACCUSATION. ARE YOU ACCUSSING ME OF LYING? YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO ATTACK MY VIEWS. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO CALL ME A LIAR AND ATTACK MY CHARACTER WITHOUT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE. PLEASE STOP.

As I have said, my testimony has been consistent on here and does reflect one ounce of globalist philosophy. You are making that up out of thin air. Provide one globalist quote I've made on here. Your charges are false and what's so awful is that you are fully aware they are false. On the Profile of a Man post, I gave my whole testimony for all to read. It does not fit a globalist philosophy.

What I find absolutely stunning is not that there are people like DrChristian in the world, it is that there have been dozens of Christians reading his obviously fallacious charges on here (I defer to my Profile of a Man post where he puked these fallacious charges out in a never-ending stream of vomit.),

AND AS A BROTHER IS PUBLICLY MALIGNED, NOT ONE BROTHER HAD (AND STILL HASN'T) THE GUTS TO COME TO MY DEFENCE. NOT ONE. ASTOUNDING TIMES WE LIVE IN. 

His reasoning is this, "Support Trump. If you cannot, you are a globalist spy and cannot be trusted."

This is really scary stuff folks. Are all of you just going to let a brother receive false allegations and say nothing? Do not think the Lord is not aware you are reading this? He sees. Shame on all of you.

By the way folks, do you not discern the focus of these comments? Are they on The Family documentary? No. DrChristian does not want to face that music. It's on my character. He reasoning is as follows: "You are a bad person and listen to bad people and therefore, you are  a liar."

I repeat, this is awful stuff and more awful that you all are silent.

I recount in my book how on the final blood moon of the heptad back in the fall in 2015, a man whom I had never met, came to me and prophesied, saying, "You will go on a difficult journey, alone."

It has truly come to pass. The LORD be praised.

Notice how JD Ignores the points I made about Hitler altogether, and saw my comment as an attack on himself. Notice How he ignores the Points I am in agreement with him on in the OP about domionism and its influence in Washington. He is incapable of admitting he is wrong because he has a whole book he has written on the subject. If he were to admit he is wrong in pointing to Trump this would make his whole book incorrect. This is the Problem with why many teachers can no longer be taught, as it takes a man to admit they are wrong. Here is what I wrote to which he responded the above to. 

 

8 hours ago, dhchristian said:

There You go again, Hitler was a Socialist, bent on controlling the World so he was a Globalist. Trump does not have those aspirations, so far as I can tell. So As you can see your analogy fails. Trump's stated foreign policy is a hands off approach to global conflict. He was against the War in Iraq, and Syria, He is trying to make peace with NoKo, he is even trying to Get the U.S. Out of Afghanistan.... The Globalists in the republican party are the War Hawks, Or as Eisenhower warned beware the military industrial complex (paraphrased)… Nationalist for Hitler's Germany meant the third Reich, Reich being a Global order. Trump has no such aspirations. This again is where you are falling victim to the liberal media's false characterization of Trump as Fascist. Even to make this comparison shows your Bias.

Since World war 2, the left has been trying to redefine Fascist Germany as a right wing movement, But this is a fallacy, yes they were right of the communists of the day, but they are still socialists, what many of your media are as well. Socialism is by its nature is Globalistic. That globalism can be of the national conquering kind like Hitler and Napolean, or Globalism of the diplomatic kind as in the U.N. and George Bush's thousand points of light New World order.

Trump believes in national sovereignty, which is far different than nationalism of the Nazi's. So Your analogy, and for that matter the medias attempts to portray DJT as a Fascist fall flat on their face. The whole construct of your arguments here are built on these sorts of similar fallacies as portrayed by the media Which has been my point from the outset of our discussions here.

National sovereignty is counter to Globalism, and is wholly Biblical. God confused the Language in Genesis 11 thereby creating the nations, and those nations as sovereign states will continue on into the Millennium (See Zech 14). The Goal of Satan is to unify nations in a global order. The first attempt was Nimrod and the tower of Babel, Where this mystery religion of the Harlot was born. Throughout history these are the beasts that the people of God have had to deal with, And the final one will be no different. This Globalism is Satan's attempt to Usurp God, who will in the end rule and reign over the nations with a Rod of Iron as the King of kings and Lord of lords (Rev 19:15-16).

Paragraph 1: Pointing out how his analogy is based on the wrong understanding that the media is foisting upon the Public of DJT, that he is a nationalist fascist, Aka Nazi, which he is not, But rather has a foreign policy that promotes national sovereignty, including his own nation. I Go on to show how Globalism manifest itself in our two party system. Point being that this sort of analogy used by JD is indicative of his reliance on the media to form his opinions on Trump, which is what they are, falsely formed and uninformed opinions.  

Paragraph 2 shows the two types or theories of globalist conquest, one is by military force, the other by incrementally usurping national sovereignty away from nations via Diplomacy and global governance, Such as the U.N. These are just facts.

Paragraph 3 Because of DJT's belief in national sovereignty he is distinct from the nationalism of Hitler, and JD's opinions are based on this false narrative that he is a fascist.... in other Words, JD got caught with his hands in the cookie jar, the cookie jar being the liberal attempt to paint trump as a fascist. Unfortunately he will never admit his error because he has too much at stake if he does. And Here in lies a dilemma for you the reader.... You must be informed and not believe every theory you hear out there. Many People said BHO was the Antichrist now he is a nobody, with a title as ex president and gets cheers at basketball games.... Hardly worshipping the beast if you know what I mean.

None of this was a false accusation, But an accurate assessment of JD's Grand error in Judging Trump, which in turn allows him to promote a hit piece like this miniseries, which is intended to sway political support amongst Christians. All Lies have enough truth in them to make them believable. I have tried to weed through the truths to expose the lies, and where they are sourced from. JD needs to wake up to his inability to see the deception the propaganda of the media has placed in him, and it is with this desire that I am exposing his fallacies.

Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee. Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser: teach a just man, and he will increase in learning. (Proverbs 9:8-9) 

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Just curious, is there anyone out there that actually wants to discuss The Family documentary -- you know, the topic I posted on?

(what a novel idea...)

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