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8 hours ago, Gentle-Warrior said:

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YOu said, 

{{{"And your insulting way of speaking really undermines your credability.. ""deplorables""?  You will not be convincing anyone of your love for the bretheren by speaking to people that way.. You will only convince them of your lack of love for them by unessecaraly using insulting and denegrating tactics.. You may believe you are being Strong and perswasive but you are only projecting the image of being a person who needs to attack the person because their ability to engage the Idea's is weak."}}}

When I referred to the "deplorables", I was only thinking of Darby, Scofield and the leaders of this 200 year movement, not believers like you and I that don't agree on the fundamentals, My intention was not to offend you. For that I apologize. 

I will respond to the rest of your post a bit later... ;)

 

You called believers who believe in the future 1000 year millennial kingdom as deplorable and other insulting derogatory terms .. You never restricted your declaration to Darby and Scofield in any of your posts.. In nearly all your posts you have launched personal attacks upon posters in this thread in your replies..

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16 hours ago, Gentle-Warrior said:

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YOu said, 

{{{"And your insulting way of speaking really undermines your credability.. ""deplorables""?  You will not be convincing anyone of your love for the bretheren by speaking to people that way.. You will only convince them of your lack of love for them by unessecaraly using insulting and denegrating tactics.. You may believe you are being Strong and perswasive but you are only projecting the image of being a person who needs to attack the person because their ability to engage the Idea's is weak."}}}

When I referred to the "deplorables", I was only thinking of Darby, Scofield and the leaders of this 200 year movement, not believers like you and I that don't agree on the fundamentals, My intention was not to offend you. For that I apologize. 

I will respond to the rest of your post a bit later... ;)

 

It is well that you apologize for that which you believe so earnestly.   If you do not the censors will come after you and silence you.

As they did in Nazi Germany, so they seek to do it here today as well.

The next level is to be jailed for your beliefs.

Be careful how you publish the truth.  It can be your undoing.

The Bible says not to muzzle the ox that works for the gospel.  Today the ox has its tongue cut out.  Tomorrow it is put to death.

America is not the country you were told it was when you were a child.  America has become a land of bigots and unrestrained fools all of whom are persuaded that God's honest truth is hate language and those who promote it judged to be mentally imbalanced.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

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18 hours ago, Gentle-Warrior said:

{{{Notice how you left off the last verse of Matthew 23... did you do that on purpose? Here it is, and it points to the restoration of Israel and the return of Jesus to rule Israel.... OH OH!!! In the Words of the church lady "isn't that conveeeenient"?}}}

 I left it out on purpose because I knew you would ignore my entire post just to concentrate on one point. The last verse of Mat. 23, states that the door for the Jews will always be open if they choose to embrace the gospel of Christ and come to Him as lost sinners. Jews have been coming to Christ for the last 2,000 years, not as a special elite race, but as desperate people that needed a Savior--- just like everyone else, since there is no longer a difference between Jew and Gentile anymore (Gal. 3:28-29) because Christ is all and all. 

Today, we have approximately 500,000 Jews scattered all over the world that have professed to believe in Christ as their Messiah and as their Lord. About 30,000 of them live in modern Israel and because of it, are being harassed by unbelieving Jews as traitors of their race. It takes a devoted heart to stand against the majority and still believe in the Lord.

So, what are you going to say now? 

As I was with Moses, so I will be with you; I will never leave you nor forsake you. - Joshua 1:5

It is NOT the gospel you promote to Jews, but church membership.  

Church membership isn't the same thing as salvation by justification in the Name (Ha Shem) of the Messiah (Yeshuah ha Mashiach). The two are not the same thing.

God has NEVER left His people Israel.  He NEVER will.  

Surely He will punish them for their sins and disobedience, but that is a matter between God and Israel - NOT YOU.  Certainly not Replacement Theology which the church uses to justify global hate and persecution of Jews - even unto their homeland given to them by God.

Are you not aware of official church policy for the last 1,700 years?   Accept Christ and join the congregation or die.  

The church has been and continues to be the greatest persecutor of Jews the world has ever seen.  (Revelation 17:5)

The official church threat against Jews is and always has been physical death and the threat of spiritual damnation in a fictitious dungeon of eternal torment.  This is NOT love of the saints.   It is anti-semitic rhetoric of the most vile sort.

Be very careful of your convictions against Israel, for they do NOT serve God's purpose.  (Genesis 12:3)

You may find yourself fighting against God's plan of redemption and God's desire to protect and defend His people - Israel.   For those who come to the Messiah in surrender to His will do NOT join a church.   They become Jews. (Romans 2:29)   There is no such thing as spiritual israel.  Replacement Theology is a work of the devil and a tissue of lies.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

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11 hours ago, dhchristian said:

:rofl: You gotta do better than that... Grace is a Noun to, So is covenant, so is The Cross. Yet we make doctrines of these nouns....

Should I go on making you look dumb?

Stop being a jerk. The Bible was given to the world in Aramean, Hebrew (Old covenant) and Koine Greek (New Covenant). English did not exist when God gave us His holy word. Are you a kjv cult follower that goes to bed with his old, stuffy, archaic language that no one reads from cover to cover because you will need a real English dictionary to explain the words that you have no idea what they mean? 

I can you give examples that will make your head spin.... if you like. :vacuum:

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11 hours ago, iamlamad said:

image.gif.ac6fcdc42ce105e9376f64eef5cc4f1d.gif    This is too funny! It is only a word to describe a change in the order of things.

Not in the Bible. 

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22 hours ago, choir loft said:

You have absolutely NO IDEA of what was accomplished on the cross, because you have denied He who died there and why.  Your hatred of Jews is obvious.  Your misunderstanding of Hebrews 1:1-3 is ludicrous because you have NO IDEA what is meant by "purification for sins".  When you deny the Old Covenant by calling its prophecies "obscure" and irrelevant you logically subvert your own ability to interpret any other part of the Bible.  Therefore you fall back on the only other classic position available to those who hate Israel and the Jews - illogic, innuendo, false doctrine and mindless heartless anti-semitic hatred of Jews.

You are not in any position to tell whether I have no idea what the bible teaches or not. It is you who is accusing me of hatred while all along I have been showing you what the word of God says, not what I think. 

I don't think I want to continue wasting my time with someone who is so caught up with loving the Jews as if they were an elite race. Everyone is free to come to Christ. The death of Jesus Christ on the cross has opened the doors of salvation for all peoples, including the Jews. These doors will continue to be open to all as long as this age exists.

I never once said I hate the Jews. The real issue here is that you hate what the word of God says about sinful Israel. Try reading Eze. 16 and be horrified what God says about them.

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3 hours ago, Gentle-Warrior said:

Not in the Bible. 

Neither is "trinity."

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8 minutes ago, iamlamad said:

Neither is "trinity."

Covenants are in the bible, so why replace or ignore covenants while that's the beating heart of God? Dispensations are man made. Like it not. 

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16 minutes ago, Gentle-Warrior said:

Covenants are in the bible, so why replace or ignore covenants while that's the beating heart of God? Dispensations are man made. Like it not. 

Agreed, covenants are in the bible; but so are the changes that covenants bring about. Why do you hate this English word so much? It is only a noun that describes something.

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2 hours ago, Gentle-Warrior said:

Stop being a jerk. The Bible was given to the world in Aramean, Hebrew (Old covenant) and Koine Greek (New Covenant). English did not exist when God gave us His holy word. Are you a kjv cult follower that goes to bed with his old, stuffy, archaic language that no one reads from cover to cover because you will need a real English dictionary to explain the words that you have no idea what they mean? 

I Am just saying your conspiracy theory of Darby and Scofield placing the word dispensation in the text is a non-argument as these words were in translations that predated them by some 4oo years. And then you make a dumb comment like you cannot make a doctrine out of noun...

For the record, I use Strong's concordance Which uses the original Greek text via the Textus Receptus, and Latin Vulgate. I Posted the link here of the Sinaiticus codex being a forgery, which is what most modern translations use. I Just do not trust the modern translations. I however do read them I have an NIV and an ESV that I read But I always compare with the KJV. For example, I believe the ESV translates Daniel 9:27 better than the KJV does, in that the translated "midst of" in the KJV should and could be translated as "for half of" the Week... How you interpret this will lead to two different timelines of events in the end times, final week for Israel. But that of course is a moot point for you because you have eliminated This final week from your eschatology..... By the same Token the verses that are footnoted or removed completely from some Modern texts are a bit disturbing, For example Matthew 17:21, which is dealing with casting out a certain type of Demon, and in Mark the modern translations have removed fasting Mark 9:29...

Matthew 17:21 NIV See Footnotes

Matthew 7:21 KJV Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.

Mark 9:29 NIV He replied, “This kind can come out only by prayer.[fn]

Mark 9:29 KJV And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting. 

Notice How fasting is left out in both of the NIV versions... Well if this particular demonic spirit can only come out by prayer and fasting then should we not Know this? This spirit is the suicidal spirit that is plaguing so many in our day now, and the churches are unable to cast this out because they are not fasting any longer. What does fasting do? Well, the main purpose is to create a Longing for the Kingdom of God, To hunger and thirst for righteousness. But it does this by opening our eyes and ears to the spiritual world good and bad. When we fast and deny our flesh, the spiritual world takes precedent over our carnal desires. Fasting is like tuning into the spiritual world by negating the material world. Fasting is done both voluntarily and involuntarily, via persecution, or poverty. So As I said, I just do not trust these versions of scripture. Does the Holy Ghost use these versions? Yes, I can tell you of people being saved using a Gideon's Bible in Hotels, which is NIV, For a time I only had an NIV and then I Got an ESV, before realizing the problems with these translations. The Holy Ghost still spoke through the Word of God, and the Holy Ghost is the one that directs us to the accurate meaning of things.

Here is another example. The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God.[fn](Mark 1:1ESV) Notice the footnote at the end... Here is what the footnote reads: 

Some manuscripts omit the Son of God
Well, that Manuscript is the Sinaiticus Codex. Because this draws into question the eternal Sonship of Christ Jesus and delays it to his becoming the Son of God when he is baptized. This is Known as divinity by adoption and is what is contained in the heretical "Shepherd of Hermas" text. But by having this term identified with Christ from the outset, points to his eternal divinity as the Son of God. He was and is and always will be the Son of God, he did not become the Son of God. Here in lies the Grand deception. Theologians have been saying for years now that Mark is the Oldest of the Gospels, and that the other gospels added to and embellished Mark's Gospel. Well if Mark does not point to the eternal Sonship of Jesus, then that draws into question this Doctrine altogether as "later added doctrine"., Just by removing these three words, and or placing doubt into whether they should be there or Not by footnote, all because of a corrupted (Forged?) text. But the Holy Ghost is protecting this doctrine, By revealing to the saints the Truth, and Jesus is the Truth.
 
Do You see now that I have done my due diligence on the topic of texts? I think you should do the same as well. I am not KJV only as in religiously I am just leary of Modern translations because they cast doubt on the inerrancy of Scripture, and place human theology and textual criticism as more important than the Word of God, which is a Laodicean church age problem. You see theology is the study of God, Christianity is Knowing God relationally. I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. (John 10:14)
  

  

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