iamlamad Posted September 23, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 688 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 23, 2019 On 9/19/2019 at 9:10 AM, Billiards Ball said: The pre-wrath rapture of the church would include 7 days of bowl judgments! That is why the prewrath theory is bogus. Well, one of many reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted September 23, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 688 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, missmuffet said: God knows the heart. If a person is saved and genuinely loves God they will be obedient to Him. We have many pretend Christians in our world today.They love the world and the Bible tells us you can not love both God and the world. We always leave judgment and/or correction up to God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted September 23, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 688 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 23, 2019 43 minutes ago, other one said: Yahweh won't land wrath on our heads for the beast at the devil's orders will have chopped off our heads for not taking the mark.... Sorry, but the bride of Christ will not see the Beast (except perhaps from a portal in heaven!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted September 23, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 688 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Justin Adams said: I agree. In the case of Edom in Amos, God ranted about them, but then Pentecost and the regathering of the nations has overcome that indictment. It is to be hoped that Israel will get their act together and not go the way they seem to be going. So much and so many are already arrayed against them but they belong to the Lord. They are the Lord's Inheritance. Yes. they killed the prophets and yes they spurned Yeshua, nevertheless, the lord said they were temporarily blinded so that His Perfect Will can be done. Hope and pray is all we can do right now... We can and should get ready for the pretrib rapture....unless, of course, you just WANT to be left behind. We leave Israel in God's capable hands. It is written that 1/3 of them will come through the fire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted September 23, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,064 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 27,816 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, iamlamad said: Sorry, but the bride of Christ will not see the Beast (except perhaps from a portal in heaven!) I certainly hope you are correct but I personally don't see it in scripture..... I do ask the Lord to either show me where it is or not to forget me if it is true. I'm spiritually ready to go, but also spiritually prepared to stay.... whatever the Lord has planned for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted September 23, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.82 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, iamlamad said: We always leave judgment and/or correction up to God. The Bible does not tell us we can not judge others. We are not to judge hypocritically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted September 23, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 688 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Billiards Ball said: The pre-wrath rapture allows all eschatons to be read literally and chronologically. Multiple Jewish believers came to a pre-wrath rapture simply comparing the fasts and festivals with their given NT fulfillments. Sorry, but the false prewrath theory forces an almost complete rewrite of Revelation. For example, where in Revelation do YOU place the days of great tribulation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted September 23, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.82 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, other one said: I certainly hope you are correct but I personally don't see it in scripture..... I do ask the Lord to either show me where it is or not to forget me if it is true. I'm spiritually ready to go, but also spiritually prepared to stay.... whatever the Lord has planned for me. Time will tell won't it oo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted September 23, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 688 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, other one said: I certainly hope you are correct but I personally don't see it in scripture..... I do ask the Lord to either show me where it is or not to forget me if it is true. I'm spiritually ready to go, but also spiritually prepared to stay.... whatever the Lord has planned for me. First, one should understand that Paul alone received the revelation of the rapture. To learn about the rapture, only Paul has the answers. If we study 1 Thes. 5, Paul tells us that the Day of the Lord and the Wrath of God will come instantly after the rapture. WE get salvation (raptured) but THEY get sudden destruction (at the same moment in time) which is the start of God's wrath. In REvelation we find that at the 6th seal. The rapture then must come just before the 6th seal. Do you know where the "trib" or 70th week is in Revelation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted September 23, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 688 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Justin Adams said: Whichever 'system' you take, there is always cheating or cutting and pasting texts. Some say cut off mid-week, others say other things. All I know is there is a Second Coming and there IS going to be terrible hardship for all. I disagree. The truth requires no cheating or cutting and pasting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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