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5 minutes ago, ARGOSY said:

Are you joking? Download the pdf file and you can read the proposals and the names of world leaders encouraging centrally controlled forced international laws for climate change and other matters. 

Hmmm... seems I was dreadfully wrong on that account. I honestly had not heard of proposed international laws. I apologize to you and agree that international laws are something to be avoided.

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7 minutes ago, one.opinion said:

Hmmm... seems I was dreadfully wrong on that account. I honestly had not heard of proposed international laws. I apologize to you and agree that international laws are something to be avoided.

No problem. Google "climate change hidden agenda". 

Interesting stuff! 

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The UN Secretary General. The Pope. Angela Merkel. EU Commissioner. All pushing for centralized international governance. 

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27 minutes ago, one.opinion said:

Hmmm... seems I was dreadfully wrong on that account. I honestly had not heard of proposed international laws. I apologize to you and agree that international laws are something to be avoided.

Yes--and this is fundamental to the dangers of the 'religion of climate change'. If you were unaware of such a glaring reality, you might want to revisit the issue altogether.

You do realize that a slight warming is actually good for mankind? Such an example is recorded in European history.

Having said that, I remain unconvinced of any balanced global warming. Weather changes--yes, but man isn't causing it.

Time will tell, but I am convinced that this is a tool being used by globalists who have coopted the gullible and easily manipulated masses who need a cause to validate their own existence.

The scientific community has always been 'moved' by forces extant throughout the years. They are frail and vulnerable humans just like any other body.

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13 hours ago, JustPassingThru said:

Yep, and it's gonna get REAL hot very, very soon, three times we are told fire will fall from heaven and destroy this planet, ...do you believe God's Word, ...so what's the big deal about a degree or two over the next 30 years when this planet will be destroyed way before that? 

God says no one will  know when.   So someone else is giving you that story.

 

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52 minutes ago, one.opinion said:

Hmmm... seems I was dreadfully wrong on that account. I honestly had not heard of proposed international laws. I apologize to you and agree that international laws are something to be avoided.

Yes, there's no plans for implementation of an international law, governing the planet.   It's just a story people tell to scare the unwise.

 

 

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5 hours ago, thomas t said:
"the sea it's limits". Below, we can see the coastline of North Frisia, Germany, changing during the last 1000 years. The last map is today's German coastline. Click here for source.
Although it wasn't climate change, I think.... according to that source (German language), man was guilty of the changes, too. Their rural economy which included drainage and peat extraction made the land lose altitude.

When He gave to the sea His decree, that the waters should not pass His commandment: when He appointed the foundations of the earth: Pro 8:29

Kinda overlooked when God "set the limit" didn't ya, ...how do you know that the present coastline of North Frisia, Germany today was not the limit He set in the beginning?

The true question is why all of this fuss and bother over climate change when Jesus is going to let loose of His hold on the physical elements and the Universe will explode with one gigantic thermonuclear explosion?

Even before that, in the last seven years of Daniel's 490 year prophecy concerning Israel, ...the Earth as we know it today will be radically changed, ...ALL water, both fresh and sea, will be turned to blood and the Sun, Moon and stars will fail to shine, and the population of the planet will be decimated from billions to possibly thousands, ...and the Biblical Prophetic clock is telling us that we are at the very threshold of those last seven years to begin, ...so what is all this fuss about, ...man is not going to "save" God's planet!

For me personally, ...it is more beneficial to people to let God control the climate and announce the Gospel because time is quickly running out!

Why do I laugh, good question, ...truthfully for me, it's sad to see so many deceived, ...so all I can say, ...it's the Holy Spirit inside of me is laughing:

 

Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.   He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.  Then shall He speak unto them in His wrath, and vex them in His sore displeasure. Yet have I set my king upon My holy hill of Zion. 2:1-6

Do not these 6 verses clearly and explicitly explain the foolishness of evolution, climate change, gender confusion, socialism and globalism, ...rampant on the earth today?

Did not the Holy Spirit warn His Church that this would come?

That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;  Eph 4:14

 

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1 hour ago, Alive said:

Yes--and this is fundamental to the dangers of the 'religion of climate change'. If you were unaware of such a glaring reality, you might want to revisit the issue altogether.

I've approached what I know from the scientific side, but haven't investigated much on the political side. The scientific evidence supporting global climate change is overwhelming. Additionally, the evidence strongly supports anthropogenic causes.

Thanks to @ARGOSY, I have now seen that people are talking about international laws. It will be interesting to see what happens in the EU, but the US, China, and India (and many other countries) will certainly not agree to subject themselves to such laws. What I see is the fear of the hypothetical outweighing reasonable steps to mitigate what is actually happening.

1 hour ago, Alive said:

You do realize that a slight warming is actually good for mankind? Such an example is recorded in European history.

That depends on the context, which you have grossly misunderstood. Continued warming at the current state of the planet will quite likely have a negative impact on millions of people living in equatorial and tropical regions.

1 hour ago, Alive said:

The scientific community has always been 'moved' by forces extant throughout the years.

That's a sweeping hyperbole considering modern scientific community is roughly 100-150 years old. Do you have some examples to support it?

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1 hour ago, Alive said:

Yes--and this is fundamental to the dangers of the 'religion of climate change'. If you were unaware of such a glaring reality, you might want to revisit the issue altogether.

You do realize that a slight warming is actually good for mankind? Such an example is recorded in European history.

Having said that, I remain unconvinced of any balanced global warming. Weather changes--yes, but man isn't causing it.

Time will tell, but I am convinced that this is a tool being used by globalists who have coopted the gullible and easily manipulated masses who need a cause to validate their own existence.

The scientific community has always been 'moved' by forces extant throughout the years. They are frail and vulnerable humans just like any other body.

God says he will destroy those that destroy the earth (the land /ground). So humans are certainly destroying the earth, as Christians we should keep our hands clean of this. Ie try and be co-operative, and keep our personal footprint down and not have too many kids in this over populated planet.

We do this even though we know only Jesus can fix things when he creates a new land and new sky/atmosphere on the day of the Lord, when he destroys those who destroy the earth. 

The real culprits are the bankers and capitalists who manipulate govts for their own ends. The very people who are exaggerating climate change for the purpose of globalization, are the ones causing the problem to expand their wealth in the oil coal, plastics, motor industries etc etc

Exaggeration or not, humans are leaving a damaging footprint merely due to overpopulation. There's too many of us to completely deny it. I just wish we could know the extent though, the exaggerations cloud the facts, and I just get annoyed when they show images of the annual ice melt in climate change documentaries. It's very annoying. 

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1 hour ago, The Barbarian said:

God says no one will  know when.   So someone else is giving you that story.

Do you read Biblical Prophecy, ...you do know God wrote the Bible and  1/3 of the Bible  is prophecy, ...I'm afraid you are the one that "someone" has given you the story that we are NOT at the end of the "Times of the Gentiles and the Dispensation of Grace," ...Jesus told us the generation that sees the fig tree bud is the generation that will see His return for His Church, ...the fig tree is the national symbol of Israel throughout the Bible, ...and we saw Israel declared by the UN and become a nation in one day, again, after their diaspora of 2,000 years, ...on May 14, 1948! 

Jesus said no one will know the day or the hour of the Rapture of His Church, ...but we will know the season:

And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. Luke 21:28

If you just watch the news of the widespread global occurrences of these "things," in the world today in extremely large numbers like never before in the history of the world, ... and then add to that the Prophecies of Isiah, 17, Ezekiel 38 and Zechariah 12, that are being fulfilled right before our very eyes,

...those that have listened to and studied what Jesus has told us know it's the end of this planet as we know it today.

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