Firm Foundation Posted October 11, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 4 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,280 Content Per Day: 1.24 Reputation: 854 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted October 11, 2019 OSAS is a twist on Calvinism. It is relatively new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sower Posted October 11, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 14 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,243 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,845 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/09/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Firm Foundation said: 4 hours ago, Sower said: What I posted happens to be the word of God. If the shoe doesn't fit, don't put it on. When I cannot convince someone with my understanding, I use scripture, when appropriate. Then, sometimes I need to 'just give it a rest'.......... Were in this together, Firm, the same team. Yes, and I can post scripture that proves you wrong that you won't accept. That is because both sides have their own interpretation of said scriptures. That is why the different denominations disagree. "For lack of wood the fire goes out, And where there is no whisperer, contention quiets down." Proverbs 26:20 I posted scripture, Firm. You for some reason cannot accept. Nor can you understand the simple thought behind it. You stated you would like to see the bickering back and forth to cease. I agreed and posted God's thought's on that subject, above. I'll at least agree to not force this dialog on the rest of Worthy. I'm gonna give it a rest now. And where there is no whisperer, contention quiets down. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firm Foundation Posted October 11, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 4 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,280 Content Per Day: 1.24 Reputation: 854 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted October 11, 2019 Just now, Sower said: "For lack of wood the fire goes out, And where there is no whisperer, contention quiets down." Proverbs 26:20 I posted scripture, Firm. You for some reason cannot accept. Nor can you understand the simple thought behind it. You stated you would like to see the bickering back and forth to cease. I agreed and posted God's thought's on that subject, above. I'll at least agree to not force this dialog on the rest of Worthy. I'm gonna give it a rest now. And where there is no whisperer, contention quiets down. I am discussing the false notion that most Christians believe in OSAS. I can give one reference that proves OSAS is false. I Cor. 6:9-11. Also 1 John 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firm Foundation Posted October 11, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 4 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,280 Content Per Day: 1.24 Reputation: 854 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Sonshine☀️ said: Amen, and all the accusations and unkind words could become “a stumblingblock to them that are weak.” We could respectfully discuss this in a single thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_S Posted October 11, 2019 Group: Servant Followers: 25 Topic Count: 275 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 5,208 Content Per Day: 1.00 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted October 11, 2019 28 minutes ago, Firm Foundation said: You are not living in reality. If you look at the reformers and look at the denominations and the people responsible for them, none held to OSAS as you teach, including Calvin. You may be describing your experience, but mine is the exact opposite. I haven't seen all the old commentaries, but I know the Matthew Henry Commentary doesn't teach OSAS. This is getting a bit personal. Please refrain from comments like this going forward in this thread. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WordSword Posted October 11, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 166 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,159 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 643 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/07/2010 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 27 minutes ago, Firm Foundation said: You are not living in reality. If you look at the reformers and look at the denominations and the people responsible for them, none held to OSAS as you teach, including Calvin. You may be describing your experience, but mine is the exact opposite. I haven't seen all the old commentaries, but I know the Matthew Henry Commentary doesn't teach OSAS. Give a check on Romans 11:29 with some Bible commentaries, and not suggesting this out of opposition but just for the purpose of seeking truth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firm Foundation Posted October 11, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 4 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,280 Content Per Day: 1.24 Reputation: 854 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 minute ago, WordSword said: Give a check on Romans 11:29 with some Bible commentaries, and not suggesting this out of opposition but just for the purpose of seeking truth. Look up Hebrews 10 in the Matthew Henry commentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firm Foundation Posted October 11, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 4 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,280 Content Per Day: 1.24 Reputation: 854 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted October 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Steve_S said: This is getting a bit personal. Please refrain from comments like this going forward in this thread. Thanks! I didn't mean it as an insult, but ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WordSword Posted October 11, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 166 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,159 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 643 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/07/2010 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, Firm Foundation said: Look up Hebrews 10 in the Matthew Henry commentary. I was going to send you Henry's commentary concerning the "irrevocable gifts of God" (Rom 11:29) but it is intimidatingly supportive of OSAS, so I chose not to send it, but verses 22-32 can be viewed here: https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/mhn/romans-11.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WordSword Posted October 11, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 166 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,159 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 643 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/07/2010 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, Firm Foundation said: Look up Hebrews 10 in the Matthew Henry commentary. I would need specific verses, so we can share our opinions with one another (only in love, as I'm sure you agree) and we don't need to pursue this in this way if you prefer. Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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