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The Second Coming will come suddenly. For many years I thought that the trumpet events would be the last warnings before the last trumpet sounded. If that were so, it would not surprise us - at least those who are in the Light. Those who are in darkness will be taken by surprise. They will be going about their normal everyday activities, and planning for the future because in their minds, life will go on as it has for thousands of years. And if they do see catastrophic events happening, they will interpret it as a natural event, not an act of God or some prophetic  warning sign. Yet a super volcanic eruption, an asteroid or a nuclear war may get their attention. Then they will flock to the churches- if anyone is there to preach to them.

But what if all we experience as warnings are what we've seen happening in the last 50 years: the gradual worldly dissent into immorality; along with the wars, rumors of wars, famine, pestilence  and earthquakes in various places, etc. ?

Is it possibly that His coming will not only resemble the days of Noah before the Flood, but also happen on the same day, on the 2nd month, 17th day? And then if so, what year? Somewhere between the 70-80 years that refers to one generation in Psalm 90:10  and beginning from 1948.

 The Day of Atonement is approaching and then on Nov. 15, the anniversary of Noah's Flood. 

Noah and His family knew, they were warned and they prepared 100 years for it. As his family knew and prepared, so do we know He is Coming and we are prepared and not in the dark. 

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On 10/5/2019 at 10:06 AM, RonaldBruno said:

Noah and His family knew, they were warned and they prepared 100 years for it. As his family knew and prepared, so do we know He is Coming and we are prepared and not in the dark. 

Noah was told the year, then later the day, beforehand.

Not something most people opining about eschatology care to mention.

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On 10/5/2019 at 11:06 AM, RonaldBruno said:

Noah and His family knew, they were warned and they prepared 100 years for it. As his family knew and prepared, so do we know He is Coming and we are prepared and not in the dark. 

all you have to do to be prepared is make sure the Holy Spirit is in/with you and you are paying attention to his directions....   none of the rest of it matters.  Enjoy your life, spread the word and expect the Spirit to tell you what and when to do things....    It's a lot less scary that way.

Just don't let the worry destroy your happiness and contentedness.   

 

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Agreed, I'm not worried though, just hopefully anticpating His return to fix this mess that I'm constantly reminded of on a daily basis. 

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Gen 3, the fall. Gen 6 the incursion. Gen 11 Babel and the scattering. These are the reasons for things going awry and why the Savior came to set things right. The Kingdom has begun here on Earth, else Yeshua is not on the throne of the Divine council. But He is and He has had ALL THINGS put under His feet, and He is bringing it to pass, beginning with Pentecost. It is a strong thought from second temple literature and theology that Noah and Yeshua were both born on Tishri 1st. The day kings are inaugurated. Noah and Yeshua share some other strong theological links. The sad events that caused the need for the flood are well know, though that literature has been frowned upon by the church, beginning with Augustine...

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Is Jesus exercising his authority here on planet earth yet?    

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1 hour ago, other one said:

Is Jesus exercising his authority here on planet earth yet?    

When His Body obeys Him, yes.

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On 10/5/2019 at 11:06 AM, RonaldBruno said:

The Second Coming will come suddenly. For many years I thought that the trumpet events would be the last warnings before the last trumpet sounded. If that were so, it would not surprise us - at least those who are in the Light. Those who are in darkness will be taken by surprise. They will be going about their normal everyday activities, and planning for the future because in their minds, life will go on as it has for thousands of years. And if they do see catastrophic events happening, they will interpret it as a natural event, not an act of God or some prophetic  warning sign. Yet a super volcanic eruption, an asteroid or a nuclear war may get their attention. Then they will flock to the churches- if anyone is there to preach to them.

But what if all we experience as warnings are what we've seen happening in the last 50 years: the gradual worldly dissent into immorality; along with the wars, rumors of wars, famine, pestilence  and earthquakes in various places, etc. ?

Is it possibly that His coming will not only resemble the days of Noah before the Flood, but also happen on the same day, on the 2nd month, 17th day? And then if so, what year? Somewhere between the 70-80 years that refers to one generation in Psalm 90:10  and beginning from 1948.

 The Day of Atonement is approaching and then on Nov. 15, the anniversary of Noah's Flood. 

Noah and His family knew, they were warned and they prepared 100 years for it. As his family knew and prepared, so do we know He is Coming and we are prepared and not in the dark. 

I believe we are supposed to be keeping our eyes on Israel (Jerusalem).

Luke 21:20-22 King James Version (KJV)

20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

 

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On 10/5/2019 at 12:06 PM, RonaldBruno said:

The Second Coming will come suddenly. For many years I thought that the trumpet events would be the last warnings before the last trumpet sounded. If that were so, it would not surprise us - at least those who are in the Light. Those who are in darkness will be taken by surprise. They will be going about their normal everyday activities, and planning for the future because in their minds, life will go on as it has for thousands of years. And if they do see catastrophic events happening, they will interpret it as a natural event, not an act of God or some prophetic  warning sign. Yet a super volcanic eruption, an asteroid or a nuclear war may get their attention. Then they will flock to the churches- if anyone is there to preach to them.

But what if all we experience as warnings are what we've seen happening in the last 50 years: the gradual worldly dissent into immorality; along with the wars, rumors of wars, famine, pestilence  and earthquakes in various places, etc. ?

Is it possibly that His coming will not only resemble the days of Noah before the Flood, but also happen on the same day, on the 2nd month, 17th day? And then if so, what year? Somewhere between the 70-80 years that refers to one generation in Psalm 90:10  and beginning from 1948.

 The Day of Atonement is approaching and then on Nov. 15, the anniversary of Noah's Flood. 

Noah and His family knew, they were warned and they prepared 100 years for it. As his family knew and prepared, so do we know He is Coming and we are prepared and not in the dark. 

To me, as these days are expected, the key here for believers is not that they are certain, but rather:

Luke 21:36 (NIV)
36  Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man." It is time to put into our lives what must be entered, and it is time to take out of our lives that which is against us. Don't wait. Now is the time.

 

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This is another very important sign to be watching for:

Luke 21:8 

And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

 

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