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4 minutes ago, one.opinion said:

I wish they would! Then they would discover that statement like "I'm just saying that all those species appeared in the Cambrian explosion, yet without any sign of fossil ancestry." are completely contradicted by evidence.

Do you mean when some amateurs think they know more paleontology than hundreds of experts in the field and won't admit error?

Nah. If you do the research, the Cambrian Explosion is still a huge problem. A lack of evidence is not evidence. 

 

Wikipedia: Cambrian Explosion:

The seemingly rapid appearance of fossils in the "Primordial Strata" was noted by William Buckland in the 1840s,[14] and in his 1859 book On the Origin of Species, Charles Darwin discussed the then inexplicable lack of earlier fossils as one of the main difficulties for his theory of descent with slow modification through natural selection.[15] The long-running puzzlement about the appearance of the Cambrian fauna, seemingly abruptly, WITHOUT PRECURSOR

 

https://evolutionnews.org/2014/10/new_precambrian/ Ediacarans lack the complex body plans of the Cambrian animals. And even if one were to accept the Ediacarans (or the embryos) as stepping stones, "the total time encompassed by the Ediacaran and Cambrian radiations still remains exceedingly brief relative to the expectations and requirements of a modern neo-Darwinian view of the history of life" (p. 87).

 

https://evolutionnews.org/2014/10/new_precambrian/

the  story is recounted in both Stephen Meyer’s book Darwin’s Doubt and in the Illustra film Darwin’s Dilemma. The presence of embryos in the Precambrian didn’t solve the Cambrian explosion problem then, and it doesn’t now. In fact, they make the problem worse, because they show that the Precambrian strata were perfectly capable of preserving transitional forms, had they existed.

 

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/04/lighting-the-fuse-for-the-cambrian-explosion/

In work that led to Australia and back, researchers believe that microfossils previously thought to be algae may actually be a specialized type of egg case, laid by an animal precursor for that explosion of life. The Cambrian Explosion was a watershed in the Earth’s biological history. Over a relatively brief span of geologic time, large-bodied, hard-shelled animals appear in the fossil record for the first time. The event is also known for the diversity of life it spawned, including almost all phyla of animals alive today. Phyla are broad classifications of life, such as Chordata (or vertebrates), which includes mammals, reptiles, and birds.

Scientists have long puzzled over the sudden appearance of these complex creatures because they must have evolved from precursors that appear to be missing from the pre-Cambrian fossil record.

 

I find that  Harvard article pretty amusing, the fossil precursors are still missing but  scientists think they may have found some eggs which may be from soft bodied creatures that they are kinda hoping may be precursors to Cambrian organisms. Let them hope that evolution is true in response to millions of organisms just appearing, like a massive creation event. 

That's how far actual scientists have got to solving the sudden appearance of millions of fossils, in the meantime you and Barbarian have solved the dilemma of the Cambrian Explosion  by copying and pasting some irrelevant studies. You should let them know you have solved it all. 

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25 minutes ago, The Barbarian said:

Show us your data on how air pressure and magnetic fields affect radioactive decay.   We know that there was never a significantly faster decay in the past on Earth for one simple reason; if it had, the increase in ionizing radiation from the decay would have fried all living things on Earth. 

But let's see what you have.

I've heard that argument before, but it just doesn't make sense. There would have been equilibrium back then, as there is now. The net effect remains the same. 

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1 hour ago, The Barbarian said:

Exodus doesn't say the days of Genesis were literal days.   If your argument is that scripture repeating figurative verses from Genesis converts them to literal history, I'd be willing to hear why you think so.  What do you have?   As you have seen, Genesis itself says it's not literal days.

yes it most certainly does by comparison

Ex 31:15-17

15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.

16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.

17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
KJV


This comparative is made and would be false if one was millions of years and the other literal day 24 hr period.... you have to ignore the plain sense of this and continue in the error that you are... 

 

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1 hour ago, ARGOSY said:

Nah. If you do the research, the Cambrian Explosion is still a huge problem.

I don't think anyone has suggested that the Cambrian Explosion is not a puzzle without a full set of answers. What I am arguing against is the persistent claim that there is no evidence for the existence of ancestors. That is just plain not true.  There is substantial evidence of fossils that pre-date the Cambrian, which is strong evidence of life forms present on the planet over millions (and even billions) of years, and not all coming into existence in a 144-hour period.

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14 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

This comparative is made and would be false if one was millions of years and the other literal day 24 hr period.... you have to ignore the plain sense of this and continue in the error that you are...

It is entirely possible that that the Exodus days are symbolic and serve as a reminder that Yaweh God is creator. Remember that the Hebrews had just left a land with a highly polytheistic religion after 400 years.

Just a reminder - it is entirely possible for a follower of Christ to both believe the Bible as the authoritative Word of God and accept that God created through the process of evolution. I (along millions of others) am living proof. Repeating claims to the contrary do not suddenly make them become true.

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2 hours ago, one.opinion said:

It is entirely possible that that the Exodus days are symbolic and serve as a reminder that Yaweh God is creator. Remember that the Hebrews had just left a land with a highly polytheistic religion after 400 years.

Just a reminder - it is entirely possible for a follower of Christ to both believe the Bible as the authoritative Word of God and accept that God created through the process of evolution. I (along millions of others) am living proof. Repeating claims to the contrary do not suddenly make them become true.

No this is not possible for you have God building upon death and that is heresy plain and simple

John 14:6

6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
KJV
 

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7 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

No this is not possible for you have God building upon death and that is heresy plain and simple

I completely agree that Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. However, the belief that nothing died prior to Adam's sin is not indicated by the Bible. This is not indicated in Genesis 1-3, nor in Romans 5 (which clear teaches, in context, about spiritual death).

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2 hours ago, enoob57 said:

yes it most certainly does by comparison

Ex 31:15-17

15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.

16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.

17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
KJV


This comparative is made and would be false if one was millions of years and the other literal day 24 hr period.... you have to ignore the plain sense of this and continue in the error that you are... 

 

Sorry, that doesn't make any sense.   Sabbath is symbolic of the last day, not the last day.

 

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1 minute ago, one.opinion said:

I completely agree that Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. However, the belief that nothing died prior to Adam's sin is not indicated by the Bible. This is not indicated in Genesis 1-3, nor in Romans 5 (which clear teaches, in context, about spiritual death).

Christ is the life not death and It was Him that created all.... clearly all forms of death is not of God but of judgment.... 

Gen 2:17

17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
KJV


Rom 5:12-17

12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.

17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
KJV

1 Cor 15:21-26

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
KJV

2 Tim 1:10

10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:
KJV

 

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Barbarian suggests:

Show us your data on how air pressure and magnetic fields affect radioactive decay.   We know that there was never a significantly faster decay in the past on Earth for one simple reason; if it had, the increase in ionizing radiation from the decay would have fried all living things on Earth. 

But let's see what you have.

3 hours ago, ARGOSY said:

I've heard that argument before, but it just doesn't make sense. There would have been equilibrium back then, as there is now. The net effect remains the same. 

It's really simple.  Radioactive decay means energy has to be released.   If the decay is speeded up, more energy is released.    There's no way to abolish the laws of thermodynamics.    You don't actually have any data for air pressure or magnetic fields affecting decay of radioactive isotopes, do you?

 

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