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HI All, 

I have a questions I was hoping to hear some Christian thoughts on, I have no Christian friends so it is difficult for me to get opinions on theological issues other than youtube and through my own introspection. 


I fell away from the Church when I was about 18 having had been prior to my apostasy a Christian for 3 years. It has been almost a decade now (I'm 27) and I've finally rediscovered my faith in Christ. I know that I'm going to remain a Christian for the remainder of my life because my faith is so much stronger now and I have experienced both a Christian and a non-Christian life so I know which of the two is more fulfilling . However, in a way I think I needed to become an atheist then rediscover my faith in order to totally solidify my Christian faith. I think God knew all along that it was necessary for me to understand both perspectives. God wants me to stand up to new atheism, I believe that is my particular commission. 

However, there is a passage that I came across recently that I had forgotten, that I have found somewhat alarming given my above experience. I'm not too concerned about it given that I think its a passage where you have to look at the broader context of Hebrews to understand it, however I would be curious to hear your thoughts: 


Hebrews 6:4-8

"For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame.For ground that drinks the rain which often falls on it and brings forth vegetation useful to those for whose sake it is also tilled, receives a blessing from God; but if it yields thorns and thistles, it is worthless and close to being cursed, and it ends up being burned."

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3 hours ago, Outcast said:

Hebrews 6:4-8

"For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame.For ground that drinks the rain which often falls on it and brings forth vegetation useful to those for whose sake it is also tilled, receives a blessing from God; but if it yields thorns and thistles, it is worthless and close to being cursed, and it ends up being burned."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



 

This verse is referring to those who were once saved but have since fallen away to such a point that they have now lost the ability to repent. They have become apostate.

There is a difference between an apostate and a backslider. The backslider can repent and come back to the Lord, the apostate can't because he has lost the ability to repent. He has reached the point of no return. 

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You should now call yourself by your new name .

what about the beloved of the Lord?  or  highly favoured  ?

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Outcast said:

HI All, 

I have a questions I was hoping to hear some Christian thoughts on, I have no Christian friends so it is difficult for me to get opinions on theological issues other than youtube and through my own introspection. 


I fell away from the Church when I was about 18 having had been prior to my apostasy a Christian for 3 years. It has been almost a decade now (I'm 27) and I've finally rediscovered my faith in Christ. I know that I'm going to remain a Christian for the remainder of my life because my faith is so much stronger now and I have experienced both a Christian and a non-Christian life so I know which of the two is more fulfilling . However, in a way I think I needed to become an atheist then rediscover my faith in order to totally solidify my Christian faith. I think God knew all along that it was necessary for me to understand both perspectives. God wants me to stand up to new atheism, I believe that is my particular commission. 

However, there is a passage that I came across recently that I had forgotten, that I have found somewhat alarming given my above experience. I'm not too concerned about it given that I think its a passage where you have to look at the broader context of Hebrews to understand it, however I would be curious to hear your thoughts: 


Hebrews 6:4-8

"For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame.For ground that drinks the rain which often falls on it and brings forth vegetation useful to those for whose sake it is also tilled, receives a blessing from God; but if it yields thorns and thistles, it is worthless and close to being cursed, and it ends up being burned."

Cheers,
 
 Revelation 3:19 as many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent. Point is; Jesus Himself is calling you out of this world to be His very own. He did the same to me. Forget what lies behind you, press on. The King is calling you brother, be of good courage, He is watching and He cares for you! shalom
 

 

 

 

 

 

 



 

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Welcome to Worthy forums.

9 hours ago, Outcast said:

It has been almost a decade now (I'm 27) and I've finally rediscovered my faith in Christ. I know that I'm going to remain a Christian for the remainder of my life because my faith is so much stronger now

Rediscoving authentic faith would a clear sign that a person did not fall away from it. Be aware that the devil knows Scripture, and he does use it to try to discourage believers and make them feel condemned. 

 

10 hours ago, Outcast said:

However, in a way I think I needed to become an atheist then rediscover my faith in order to totally solidify my Christian faith. I think God knew all along that it was necessary for me to understand both perspectives. God wants me to stand up to new atheism, I believe that is my particular commission. 

God definitely can and does use our times of backsliding to teach us and enable us to minister to others. Be encouraged by Romans 8:28 which says, "And we know that God works all things together for the good of those who love Him, who are called according to His purpose." God works all things together.

Also, Jeremiah 18:1-4 has been a great comfort to me when I have felt that I have blown it in my Christian walk.
1.  The word which came to Jeremiah from the LORD, saying,
2.  Arise, and go down to the potter’s house, and there I will cause thee to hear my words.
3.  Then I went down to the potter’s house, and, behold, he wrought a work on the wheels.
4.  And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it.

Sometimes we can become marred because of our own bad choices and even mess our lives up, but God can remold us even then and make us vessels to fulfill His purposes.

I will pray for you.

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