nobleseed Posted October 12, 2019 Group: Members * Followers: 1 Topic Count: 83 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 341 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 117 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) child abusers cant be saved because by their actions they have rejected God and excepted satan into their hearts. no abomination will ever be forgiven Edited October 12, 2019 by nobleseed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post other one Posted October 12, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,043 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,785 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2019 I don't see that as Biblical unless you can convince me it is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.... 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobleseed Posted October 12, 2019 Group: Members * Followers: 1 Topic Count: 83 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 341 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 117 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, other one said: I don't see that as Biblical unless you can convince me it is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.... to hurt a child is a worse blasphemy then that of the holy spirit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steward Popular Post George Posted October 12, 2019 Group: Steward Followers: 110 Topic Count: 10,465 Topics Per Day: 1.26 Content Count: 27,764 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 15,435 Days Won: 128 Joined: 06/30/2001 Status: Online Birthday: 09/21/1971 Steward Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2019 @nobleseed The problem with statements such as this ... is there is no Biblical foundation for such statements. The Word is clear that many people are forgiven for horrible sins ... aka David -- a murderer, adulterer ... and yet David was called one after God's own heart. The reality is that many people before they come to faith are far from the Lord as Paul so stated ... 1Co 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor abusers, nor homosexuals, 1Co 6:10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. Notice that Paul gives a criteria ... and then notice ... 1Co 6:11 And such were some of you. But you are washed, but you are sanctified, but you are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. I trust we'll allow the Word of God to be the final arbitrator of matters such as this, God bless, George 8 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobleseed Posted October 12, 2019 Group: Members * Followers: 1 Topic Count: 83 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 341 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 117 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, George said: @nobleseed The problem with statements such as this ... is there is no Biblical foundation for such statements. The Word is clear that many people are forgiven for horrible sins ... aka David -- a murderer, adulterer ... and yet David was called one after God's own heart. The reality is that many people before they come to faith are far from the Lord as Paul so stated ... 1Co 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor abusers, nor homosexuals, 1Co 6:10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. Notice that Paul gives a criteria ... and then notice ... 1Co 6:11 And such were some of you. But you are washed, but you are sanctified, but you are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. I trust we'll allow the Word of God to be the final arbitrator of matters such as this, God bless, George did not Jesus say those who corrupt children will not suffer. does not the very nature of things tell u that those who hurt children are condemned. does not even a world that is evil even condemn such men? what i say is the truth. God will avenge the righteous and the innocent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Adstar Posted October 12, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,399 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,307 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/2002 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 hour ago, nobleseed said: child abusers cant be saved because by their actions they have rejected God and excepted satan into their hearts. no abomination will ever be forgiven Just because we personally consider a sin to be exceptionally evil and we do not want those who have offended in a particular way to be forgiven, We must be guided by the Word of God and what He has revealed, We need to have faith / trust in the judgement of God not in our own feelings and assessments... Child abuse is not blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and thus can be forgiven.. His will be done 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AngelInTraining93 Posted October 12, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 239 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/27/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/16/1993 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2019 19 minutes ago, nobleseed said: to hurt a child is a worse blasphemy then that of the holy spirit To hurt a child is horribly evil, yes. But according to Matthew 12, blaspheming the Holy Spirit is the only unforgivable sin. That comes straight from the mouth of Christ. Jesus was sinless, so we know He wasn't lying. 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted October 12, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 950 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,525 Content Per Day: 5.02 Reputation: 9,025 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 hour ago, nobleseed said: they have rejected God and excepted satan into their hearts But no one has excuse, no one. All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. That puts everyone into the same fix from the getgo. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobleseed Posted October 12, 2019 Group: Members * Followers: 1 Topic Count: 83 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 341 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 117 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Neighbor said: But no one has excuse, no one. All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. That puts everyone into the same fix from the getgo. child molestation is a bit beyond the realm of common sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis1209 Posted October 12, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 17 Topic Count: 347 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,445 Content Per Day: 2.70 Reputation: 5,363 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/27/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 hour ago, nobleseed said: child abusers cant be saved because by their actions they have rejected God and excepted satan into their hearts. no abomination will ever be forgiven I'm going to politely disagree. Mark 3:29 (KJV) But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: The infamous Jeffrey Dahmer is widely reported to have accepted Christ as his personal Savior and repented, before he was killed in prison. All things may be forgiven but two, the above and receiving the mark of the Beast. If an abomination can't be forgiven, were all in trouble. ABOMINA'TION, n. 1. Extreme hatred; detestation. 2. The object of detestation, a common signification in scripture. The way of the wicked is an abomination to the Lord. Prov.xv. 3. Hence, defilement, pollution, in a physical sense, or evil doctrines and practices, which are moral defilements, idols and idolatry, are called abominations. The Jews were an abomination to the Egyptians; and the sacred animals of the Egyptians were an abomination to the Jews. The Roman army is called the abomination of desolation. Mat. 24:13. In short, whatever is an object of extreme hatred, is called an abomination. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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