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To “walk in the Spirit is to have the Lord Jesus as actual source of all that arises in us of thoughts and feelings. A man’s spirituality is measured by this. What freedom from sin and all besides to fellowship with the Father, and to serve Him! “For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death” (Rom 8:2). For the Lord Jesus is the only Object of faith, the only One that satisfies us, as indeed, He is the Father’s Object; and if we have got but one mind with Him about the Beloved (Eph 1:6), our communion is with the Father, and with His Son.

We do need to be taught of the Spirit, to enter, more deeply than we have done, into what the Father has given us in His Son. If we do not, some difficulties will arise which will demand the knowledge of that which we have not got, and there will be weakness; there will be the consulting of flesh and blood (natural discernment of what we think instead of what He thinks—NC), instead of going forward in the strength of God, with the eye fixed upon the Lord Jesus.

To be saints of God, to be in His presence, at ease and at home before the throne of our Father, to have the privilege of beholding His beloved Son, and seeing Him in the glory which He had with the Father before the world was: there “is the hope of His Calling” (Eph 1:18). He has called us there, where no angel can be, no creature (heirs of salvation making us children of God wherein is no nearer fellowship—NC), save those who have a divine nature imparted to them; and who, by the Holy Spirit, are capable of entering into the deepest thoughts of God.

This is communicated to us, even here in this world that our hearts may rise up to the consciousness of the dignity of our position in the risen Lord Jesus. Conscience will not keep a person from sin (it’s just a register of memories—NC). There must be the affections brought into play, and such an acquaintance with the Father, such a familiarity with His thoughts and feelings that they become the meat and drink of the child of God.

Are not our souls too often satisfied short of this? Content with what is more simply suited to our need, or with what would be considered more practical. Why is it so, that we rest short of entering into what our Father gives us in His beloved Son as He is in His own presence now? It is because we are not walking in dependence upon the Spirit: it is the power of nature in exercise that hinders us. Nature always clings to something present—something that touches our wants as we see and feel them. Whereas, where the heart is more in the presence of the Father and in the enjoyment of the Son, while we are more sensitive as to what glorifies our Father, yet we learn a power in the Lord Jesus, and not merely in fact of certain things being right and wrong.

Growth is not a mere question of new habits. It is the Father unfolding His Son to us—His own thoughts and feelings as revealed in His Son; and this is what gives us reality. Because, if I see God has really wrought in Christ this wonderful work, far beyond that of creation—the raising of the Lord Jesus form the dead, and setting Him at His own right hand in heaven—if we read that act in the light of God, we see what sin was, what Satan was, what the judgment of God was, who now, in grace passes over it all. All is gone now (the curse and every relative judgement—NC); all is passed over for us, that our Father might magnify Himself.

While we are in the world, over which judgment is hanging, we are raised above it all—we have the liberty of heaven (presently using it—NC), while we are on the earth. We have passed in the person of the Lord Jesus outside this world; we have taken our position in heaven, we have been “made to sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus” (Eph 2:6). That is, we have been put at ease there, which the thought of sitting gives. All thought of pilgrimage is lost sight of in this range of truth (often having the sense of already being in heaven—NC). Our being pilgrims and strangers, though most true and blessed, is not so blessed a place as being seated together in places in Christ Jesus.

 - G Gardiner

 

 

“Regeneration is a birth: the center and root of the personality, the spirit, has been re-created and taken possession of by the Holy Spirit. But time is required for that center to extend through all the circumference of our being. It is akin to a seed: the life of the Lord Jesus within must grow; and it would be against the laws of nature and grace alike if we expected from the babe in Christ the strength that can only be found in the young man, or the rich experience and stability of the fathers. Even where in the new convert there is great singleness of heart and faith, with true love and devotion to the Saviour, time is needed for a deeper knowledge of the old man and sin, for a spiritual insight into what the Father’s will and grace are.” – Andrew Murray (1828 – 1917)

http://www.abideabove.com/hungry-heart/day/2019/10/31/

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5 minutes ago, WordSword said:

 

 

 

To “walk in the Spirit is to have the Lord Jesus as actual source of all that arises in us of thoughts and feelings. A man’s spirituality is measured by this. What freedom from sin and all besides to fellowship with the Father, and to serve Him! “For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death” (Rom 8:2). For the Lord Jesus is the only Object of faith, the only One that satisfies us, as indeed, He is the Father’s Object; and if we have got but one mind with Him about the Beloved (Eph 1:6), our communion is with the Father, and with His Son.

We do need to be taught of the Spirit, to enter, more deeply than we have done, into what the Father has given us in His Son. If we do not, some difficulties will arise which will demand the knowledge of that which we have not got, and there will be weakness; there will be the consulting of flesh and blood (natural discernment of what we think instead of what He thinks—NC), instead of going forward in the strength of God, with the eye fixed upon the Lord Jesus.

To be saints of God, to be in His presence, at ease and at home before the throne of our Father, to have the privilege of beholding His beloved Son, and seeing Him in the glory which He had with the Father before the world was: there “is the hope of His Calling” (Eph 1:18). He has called us there, where no angel can be, no creature (heirs of salvation making us children of God wherein is no nearer fellowship—NC), save those who have a divine nature imparted to them; and who, by the Holy Spirit, are capable of entering into the deepest thoughts of God.

This is communicated to us, even here in this world that our hearts may rise up to the consciousness of the dignity of our position in the risen Lord Jesus. Conscience will not keep a person from sin (it’s just a register of memories—NC). There must be the affections brought into play, and such an acquaintance with the Father, such a familiarity with His thoughts and feelings that they become the meat and drink of the child of God.

Are not our souls too often satisfied short of this? Content with what is more simply suited to our need, or with what would be considered more practical. Why is it so, that we rest short of entering into what our Father gives us in His beloved Son as He is in His own presence now? It is because we are not walking in dependence upon the Spirit: it is the power of nature in exercise that hinders us. Nature always clings to something present—something that touches our wants as we see and feel them. Whereas, where the heart is more in the presence of the Father and in the enjoyment of the Son, while we are more sensitive as to what glorifies our Father, yet we learn a power in the Lord Jesus, and not merely in fact of certain things being right and wrong.

Growth is not a mere question of new habits. It is the Father unfolding His Son to us—His own thoughts and feelings as revealed in His Son; and this is what gives us reality. Because, if I see God has really wrought in Christ this wonderful work, far beyond that of creation—the raising of the Lord Jesus form the dead, and setting Him at His own right hand in heaven—if we read that act in the light of God, we see what sin was, what Satan was, what the judgment of God was, who now, in grace passes over it all. All is gone now (the curse and every relative judgement—NC); all is passed over for us, that our Father might magnify Himself.

While we are in the world, over which judgment is hanging, we are raised above it all—we have the liberty of heaven (presently using it—NC), while we are on the earth. We have passed in the person of the Lord Jesus outside this world; we have taken our position in heaven, we have been “made to sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus” (Eph 2:6). That is, we have been put at ease there, which the thought of sitting gives. All thought of pilgrimage is lost sight of in this range of truth (often having the sense of already being in heaven—NC). Our being pilgrims and strangers, though most true and blessed, is not so blessed a place as being seated together in places in Christ Jesus.

 - G Gardiner

 

 

“Regeneration is a birth: the center and root of the personality, the spirit, has been re-created and taken possession of by the Holy Spirit. But time is required for that center to extend through all the circumference of our being. It is akin to a seed: the life of the Lord Jesus within must grow; and it would be against the laws of nature and grace alike if we expected from the babe in Christ the strength that can only be found in the young man, or the rich experience and stability of the fathers. Even where in the new convert there is great singleness of heart and faith, with true love and devotion to the Saviour, time is needed for a deeper knowledge of the old man and sin, for a spiritual insight into what the Father’s will and grace are.” – Andrew Murray (1828 – 1917)

http://www.abideabove.com/hungry-heart/day/2019/10/31/

"We do need to be taught of the Spirit, to enter, more deeply than we have done, into what the Father has given us in His Son. If we do not, some difficulties will arise which will demand the knowledge of that which we have not got, and there will be weakness; there will be the consulting of flesh and blood (natural discernment of what we think instead of what He thinks—NC), instead of going forward in the strength of God, with the eye fixed upon the Lord Jesus."

 

Then why are you teaching us, if we need to be taught of the Spirit..

 

Hebrews 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
 
John 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
 
1 John 2:26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
 
yes we are taught by Christ, not by cunning craftiness of men whereby they lie in wait to deceive, but we see that we put off the old man and become the new man, not a new birth baby at all, but a man, no need to grow, we re already a man of God, and growth is learning more,m but we put off the body of the sins immediately..
 
Ephesians 4:20 But ye have not so learned Christ;21 If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
 
Galatians 1:As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
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1 hour ago, vincents_desk said:

"We do need to be taught of the Spirit, to enter, more deeply than we have done, into what the Father has given us in His Son. If we do not, some difficulties will arise which will demand the knowledge of that which we have not got, and there will be weakness; there will be the consulting of flesh and blood (natural discernment of what we think instead of what He thinks—NC), instead of going forward in the strength of God, with the eye fixed upon the Lord Jesus."

Then why are you teaching us, if we need to be taught of the Spirit..

Hebrews 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

Hi and God bless! The Spirit teaches through one another. Through one another He shows us doctrine and we share it with one another. Otherwise we "lean" only to our understanding, which greatly limits God's access, since He teaches through one another.

The above reference depicts a time that will come when all will know God and nobody will need to teach one another about Him.

6 hours ago, vincents_desk said:

John 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

This passage demonstrates the Spirit working through Christians in preaching the Gospel (Rom 10:14, 15), which I believe parallels Jh 6:44.
 
 
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