douge Posted November 12, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 354 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 964 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 181 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/14/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) Jeremiah 33:17 For thus saith the LORD; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel; 2 Samuel 7:16 And thine house and thy kingdom shall be established for ever before thee: thy throne shall be established for ever. David was told of God that his kingdom and throne would be established forever. Deuteronomy 15:6 For the LORD thy God blesseth thee, as he promised thee: and thou shalt lend unto many nations, but thou shalt not borrow; and thou shalt reign over many nations, but they shall not reign over thee. God has promised Israel will reign over many nations. Daniel 7:14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed. 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth. 7:18 But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever. Jesus will have dominion over the nations in his kingdom on earth, and the saints, the believing remnant of Israel, will possess this kingdom forever. Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Jesus was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel during his earthly ministry. Jesus did not go to Gentiles (Matthew 10:5) although Gentiles could come to God through Israel (Exodus 12:48 Acts 10:45); Gentiles would be blessed in the kingdom by the Lord Jesus and the remnant of Israel (Isaiah 60:3 Matthew 12:18-21 Luke 2:32). Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Jesus was sent to save Israel from their sins. Luke 12:32 Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom. The believing remnant of Israel is called "little flock" by the Lord Jesus Christ; it is this remnant who will, according to the law and prophets, be given the kingdom on earth (2 Kings 21:14 Isaiah 1:9 Jeremiah 23:2 Psalm 37:9-11 Daniel 7:18 Deuteronomy 4:39-40). Acts 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; Peter preached that Jesus rose again to sit on the throne of David in the kingdom. Matthew 4:23 And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people. The gospel of the kingdom was the glad tidings to Israel that their promised kingdom on earth was coming. Luke 9:1 Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases. 9:2 And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick. That Jesus sent the twelve to heal the sick is significant in identifying the gospel they were sent to preach. God was speaking to Aaron in Leviticus 21:17-24 and told him that no seed of his could perform priestly duty if blemished by physical infirmity. The twelve were preaching the gospel of the kingdom to prepare a kingdom of priests as prophesied in Exodus 19:5-6. Healing was to prepare priests without blemish; to announce the coming kingdom (Luke 10:9); and for signs (Mark 16:17). The twelve disciples were sent to preach the same gospel that the Lord Jesus Christ was preaching to Israel, the gospel of the kingdom. Mark 11:10 Blessed be the kingdom of our father David, that cometh in the name of the Lord: Hosanna in the highest. The gospel of the kingdom preached by Jesus and the twelve disciples was the preaching of the kingdom of David, the Davidic kingdom. 1 Chronicles 29:11 Thine, O LORD is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all that is in the heaven and in the earth is thine; thine is the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head above all. The twelve disciples were sent to preach the Davidic kingdom on earth. The kingdom of God includes heaven and earth. The twelve were preaching the earthly kingdom aspect of the kingdom of God. Matthew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Matthew 24:3 establishes the subject of inquiry as the coming of the Lord Jesus and the end of the world. The gospel of the kingdom would be preached by the twelve disciples to the nations on earth before the end. The same gospel preached by Jesus at the beginning will be preached at the end. Matthew 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. 28:17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. In verse 18 all power is given unto Christ Jesus in heaven and in earth. Jesus will establish his kingdom in the earth as well as in heaven. The kingdom promised Israel troughout scripture is an earthly kingdom. Jesus is reconciling both heaven and earth to himself (Colossians 1:20); the earth is to be reconciled through Israel and the Davidic kingdom. In verse 19 Jesus told the eleven disciples to teach and baptize all nations beginning at Jerusalem (Luke 24:47). This would pertain to the Gentile nations that will enter the kingdom along with believing Israel. Acts 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? The disciples certainly expected the earthly Davidic kingdom when they asked Jesus if the kingdom would be restored at that time to Israel. There is nothing in scripture that demonstrates Jesus or the twelve were preaching any other gospel than the gospel of the kingdom during that dispensation. Exodus 19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine: 19:6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel. God promised Israel would be a holy nation, a kingdom of priests; God has qualified this kingdom as being upon the earth in verse 5 when he said "all the earth is mine". Revelation 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. The remnant, the Israel of God, will be kings and priests in the kingdom as promised. Jesus and the twelve preached the gospel of the kingdom. The Lord Jesus Christ will come to fulfill the promise to sit on the throne of David in the Davidic kingdom on earth (Isaiah 9:6-7). Israel will posses the kingdom and reign with Christ over the Gentile nations on earth for a thousand years (Revelation 20:4 Edited November 15, 2019 by douge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted November 12, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.24 Reputation: 9,760 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted November 12, 2019 You post almost always reflect on what you believe the Gospels did not mean to His body. This leave me to wonder what you believe is for His body, the church? At the same time, what do you do with 2 Timothy 3:16-17? All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douge Posted November 12, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 354 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 964 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 181 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/14/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, OneLight said: You post almost always reflect on what you believe the Gospels did not mean to His body. This leave me to wonder what you believe is for His body, the church? At the same time, what do you do with 2 Timothy 3:16-17? All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.  The gospel we are to believe is found in Romans 3-5 I Corinthians 15:3-4 and elsewhere in Paul's epistles. All of Paul's epistles are for the edification and instruction of the body. All scripture is profitable and Paul expounds on past scripture throughout his epistles. Edited November 12, 2019 by douge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted November 12, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.24 Reputation: 9,760 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted November 12, 2019 28 minutes ago, douge said: The gospel we are to believe is found in Romans 3-5 I Corinthians 15:3-4 and elsewhere in Paul's epistles. All of Paul's epistles are for the edification and instruction of the body. All scripture is profitable and Paul expounds on past scripture throughout his epistles. I'll follow the whole bible instead of dividing it as you do. So to be more clear, I will follow Jesus, whom Paul also followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted November 13, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 26 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,604 Content Per Day: 3.98 Reputation: 7,795 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted November 13, 2019 The Gospel began in the Tanakh. Abram was to bless all nations. Understand what the apostles meant by understanding the Tanakh first. That was their 'bible' plus many Hebrew texts and commentaries that we seem to ignore. The apostle says conclusively 'all Israel shall be saved..' Â This means all believers regardless of ethnicity. If then these are 'all Israel' then they (believers) WILL be a kingdom of priests to all the nations. This began again at Pentecost. It was commanded and portrayed in the Tanakh because it is the Heart of the Lord God 'that none should be lost'. Â 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted November 13, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,298 Content Per Day: 1.73 Reputation: 1,685 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted November 13, 2019 Jesus came only to Israel, to the Jews simple because they were the ones God had chosen to hear his message, to hold the blood line that would bare the annoited one. Jesus fulfilled all the prophercies of a coming Messiah. The gospel is found in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Not as clearly as Paul preaches it but it is there. What is very significant is Jesus sending the disciples out into the whole world. That alone shows that the gospel was not for Israel only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted November 13, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 26 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,604 Content Per Day: 3.98 Reputation: 7,795 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Who me said: What is very significant is Jesus sending the disciples out into the whole world. Yes and more telling is the 70 that were sent. Telegraphing that He was here for the scattered nations as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted November 13, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 26 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,604 Content Per Day: 3.98 Reputation: 7,795 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted November 13, 2019 P.s. Abram was NOT an Israelite... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted November 13, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted November 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Betha said: When you say 'His body - the church' do you mean the many thousand splintered 'christian churches on earth  that find no agreement between themselves ? If Jesus understood that doctrinal disagreements would lead to denominationalism, we should also accept one another believing in the same Saviour. If we do here at Worthy, that should apply elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted November 13, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted November 13, 2019 23 hours ago, douge said: David was told of God that his kingdom and throne would be established forever. I believe this to be true. 23 hours ago, douge said: God has promised Israel will reign over many nations. When the New Jerusalem comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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