Dennis1209 Posted November 26, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 17 Topic Count: 347 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,443 Content Per Day: 2.70 Reputation: 5,363 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/27/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted November 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sonshine said: Can’t measure eternity. Sure you can! It will only take an eternity to do it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coliseum Posted November 26, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 133 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 1,123 Content Per Day: 0.67 Reputation: 2,055 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/07/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted November 26, 2019 On 11/22/2019 at 8:40 AM, Tigger56 said: I am grateful for the responses to the questions. I do praise the Lord for their great mercy and the fact that they can forget. There are more scriptures that state this. But I hope you don't mind if we go a little deeper with a few more questions and hope that iron will sharpen iron. If the Lord forgets our iniquities and our sins and once again, I believe he does. Then I have another question: What is the requirement for this? Imagine being a thief and stealing from your own father. If your father was only kind to you all your life, how might he feel? He would be grieved and saddened. But if you returned to him what you stole and humbled yourself, would he not embrace you and remember that his son chose the better way? Would he not be willing to share in his son's good choices and not hold his bad choices against him? God is not bitter. He is gracious and kind and desires to restore His fellowship with you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted November 26, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.89 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted November 26, 2019 If you are a member of the Body of Christ ALL of your sins are forgiven.The Cross changed everything.We are in the Age Of Grace......we need to understand that and rejoice in all the things that are better for us now under our New Covenant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted November 26, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted November 26, 2019 On 11/22/2019 at 5:09 AM, Tigger56 said: I know that the Lord God and the Lord Jesus forgive us of our sins, but can they erase them from their memory? Can they forgive and forget our transgressions? Christ not only forgives our sins He forgets our sins. That is something humans can't do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted November 27, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.89 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted November 27, 2019 Jesus death only becomes “pointless” when people think it is not adequate to pay for every willful, unrepented , evil sin ever committed . His Blood covers them all.Adding works to what Jesus accomplished on the Cross- not Resting in His Finished Work is what is going to get one “ fallen from Grace” and “ severed from the Cross Of Jesus.The sin issue has been settled forever. Believers can be chastised to the point of death for sinning.Salvation-wise, the Amazing Grace that Jesus suffered so much to purchase on our behalf will get us Home.Jesus taught on the other side of the Cross in the Age Of Law.THIS side of the Cross ,Jesus revealed to Paul mysteries that had been hidden for Millenia.Total forgiveness for Faith in Paul’s Gospel, revealed to Paul by the Transcended Christ was the Foremost.We should be basking in the Wonderful Grace that Jesus provided for us instead of insisting that we keep one and a half feet in TheLaw.A Law we are supposedly “ Dead” to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted November 27, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.89 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted November 27, 2019 5 hours ago, Margo1945 said: 2 questions: 1) when some tried to tell Jesus, they prophesied for Him and other things and Jesus told them to leave as He never knew them, why did He not know them? 2) Satan and his fallen demon angels and unbelievers will be in the lake of fire .. also, there will be murderers, adulterers, liars, etcetra ... in the lake of fire .. who are they .. they are not unbelievers as they are already accounted for .. so, they are believers who chose to sin and not repent .. true Christians still sin and when they do they MUST repent .. how can anyone truly believe that they can sin and not ask forgiveness and not repent but still be in heaven aka paradise which was lost due to sin and then reopened when Christ paid the debt for sin .. unless a sinner asks for forgiveness and truly repents, his/her sins are NOT forgiven and his/her punishment is the consequence of his/her choosing to sin and not repent .. Jesus forgives all sinners who genuinely ask forgiveness and repent and IF they do so, they will not be punished as Jesus paid that debt .. ooopsss 3rd question .. what happens to those who will not be forgiven IF they do not forgive those who offend them (Lord's prayer by the Lord Himself)... we sin .. we repent .. or we shall not be in heaven as there will be NO UNREPENTANT sinners in Heaven, only repentant ones 1......They used the word “ I” too much. It was never about what THEY did for God— it was about God did for THEM......when you stand before Your Maker, the only time you should use the word “ I” is if you wisely say the words He wants to hear—- “ I” believed your Gospel” 2.....How can anyone make it that has sinned and not repented? Grace. It’s not fair.Thats why it is called “ Grace”. Repentance occurs naturally in the life of the Believer....It is a Fruit Of Salvation — not the cause of it.The Repentance that plays a part in Salvation is the “ change of mind” that takes you from being an UN BELIEVER in Jesus for your Salvation to a BELIEVER in Jesus for your Salvation.One can repent without believing but one can’t believe without repenting.Deep, huh? Lol....That’s why the Book Of Salvation, John, mentions “ Believe” hundreds of times but never mentions the word “ Repentance” once.That should speak tons to a wise minded person. 3....If one Believes and can say “Jesus is Lord” he has the Holy Spirit within him and that lets God Baptize him into the Body Of Christ where he is totally forgiven of ALL sins.....those include willful sins, unrepented of sins and any other type of sin you can imagine.The Book Of Colossians says ALL sins .The Greek word translated “all” means anything and everything a person could ever possibly dream up.Even if you accidentally hit your thumb with a hammer and say a bad word and then immediately die of a heart attack before you have a chance to repent —- Grace has got you covered! Our Eternal fate does not hinge upon “Lucky Repentance”....... thank God....It hinges on Resting in The Gospel Of Grace......are you “ trying” to be saved or are you “Trusting” to be saved—- the difference is Heaven or Hell. One best get with God’s New Plan For Salvation —- are you resting in the Gospel Of 1 Cor 15:1-4 ? God bless..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigger56 Posted November 27, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 679 Topics Per Day: 0.36 Content Count: 1,327 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/04/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Blood Bought 1953 said: 1......They used the word “ I” too much. It was never about what THEY did for God— it was about God did for THEM......when you stand before Your Maker, the only time you should use the word “ I” is if you wisely say the words He wants to hear—- “ I” believed your Gospel” 2.....How can anyone make it that has sinned and not repented? Grace. It’s not fair.Thats why it is called “ Grace”. Repentance occurs naturally in the life of the Believer....It is a Fruit Of Salvation — not the cause of it.The Repentance that plays a part in Salvation is the “ change of mind” that takes you from being an UN BELIEVER in Jesus for your Salvation to a BELIEVER in Jesus for your Salvation.One can repent without believing but one can’t believe without repenting.Deep, huh? Lol....That’s why the Book Of Salvation, John, mentions “ Believe” hundreds of times but never mentions the word “ Repentance” once.That should speak tons to a wise minded person. 3....If one Believes and can say “Jesus is Lord” he has the Holy Spirit within him and that lets God Baptize him into the Body Of Christ where he is totally forgiven of ALL sins.....those include willful sins, unrepented of sins and any other type of sin you can imagine.The Book Of Colossians says ALL sins .The Greek word translated “all” means anything and everything a person could ever possibly dream up.Even if you accidentally hit your thumb with a hammer and say a bad word and then immediately die of a heart attack before you have a chance to repent —- Grace has got you covered! Our Eternal fate does not hinge upon “Lucky Repentance”....... thank God....It hinges on Resting in The Gospel Of Grace......are you “ trying” to be saved or are you “Trusting” to be saved—- the difference is Heaven or Hell. One best get with God’s New Plan For Salvation —- are you resting in the Gospel Of 1 Cor 15:1-4 ? God bless..... I do believe in the grace of God, the mercy found at their thrones. However, one cannot take away the need for repentance when someone willfully sins against the Lord. Jesus' own message was.... Matt. 4:17, "repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." John the Baptist says this in Matt. 3:2, When Peter spoke on Pentecost and declared Christ as Lord, the people were pricked in their hearts and asked what were they to do. Peter in Acts 2:38 said, Repent and be baptized... Repentance is part of the gospel message. Repent and be baptized is the start of the path of following the Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coliseum Posted November 27, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 133 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 1,123 Content Per Day: 0.67 Reputation: 2,055 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/07/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted November 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tigger56 said: I do believe in the grace of God, the mercy found at their thrones. However, one cannot take away the need for repentance when someone willfully sins against the Lord. Jesus' own message was.... Matt. 4:17, "repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." John the Baptist says this in Matt. 3:2, When Peter spoke on Pentecost and declared Christ as Lord, the people were pricked in their hearts and asked what were they to do. Peter in Acts 2:38 said, Repent and be baptized... Repentance is part of the gospel message. Repent and be baptized is the start of the path of following the Lord. Depends upon the reason you turn back to God. If your motive is to obey the Ten Commandments or else, or check off all 613 regulations, then the whole point of grace is zero. God is not interested in outward compliance; He desires your heart. Where is grace with an axe over the base of your skull? The whole point of grace is that it is unmerited, you don't deserve it, it is free---and more to the point, it is a gift. Who gives a gift out of love to his son and then takes it away? Chastisement, yes. Punishment, yes. But God does not give salvation in order to taunt and tease. He gives it to those who confess with their mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in their heart that God raised them from the dead. There are no other conditions! Jesus plus nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigger56 Posted November 27, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 679 Topics Per Day: 0.36 Content Count: 1,327 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/04/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, Coliseum said: Depends upon the reason you turn back to God. If your motive is to obey the Ten Commandments or else, or check off all 613 regulations, then the whole point of grace is zero. God is not interested in outward compliance; He desires your heart. Where is grace with an axe over the base of your skull? The whole point of grace is that it is unmerited, you don't deserve it, it is free---and more to the point, it is a gift. Who gives a gift out of love to his son and then takes it away? Chastisement, yes. Punishment, yes. But God does not give salvation in order to taunt and tease. He gives it to those who confess with their mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in their heart that God raised them from the dead. There are no other conditions! Jesus plus nothing. grace cannot be earned but grace allows us the freedom of obedience unto the Lord not the freedom of disobedience. Grace is precious but it is not cheap. Your words contradict. If it only takes confession with your mouth then why do you say... chastisement, yes, punishment, yes. What is the chastisement and punishment for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coliseum Posted November 27, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 133 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 1,123 Content Per Day: 0.67 Reputation: 2,055 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/07/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted November 27, 2019 Just now, Tigger56 said: grace cannot be earned but grace allows us the freedom of obedience unto the Lord not the freedom of disobedience. Grace is precious but it is not cheap. Your words contradict. If it only takes confession with your mouth then why do you say... chastisement, yes, punishment, yes. What is the chastisement and punishment for? If you have children, do you toss them to the wind when they are disobedient? No. you may chastise them, but they remain your children. You don't discard them. btw, why did you only quote one half of the full quote from God's Word above? Sounds like you are being disingenuous. Blessings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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