Raven Posted November 27, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 395 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 319 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/20/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 27, 2019 Do you see the truth, or what you want to see? When you are happy to see someone, is it because you see their truth, their innermost reality; or do you see an opportunity to further establish, or strengthen, your own created identity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted November 27, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.93 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted November 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, Raven said: Do you see the truth, or what you want to see? When you are happy to see someone, is it because you see their truth, their innermost reality; or do you see an opportunity to further establish, or strengthen, your own created identity? I guess that would depend on who it is I am seeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sower Posted November 27, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 14 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,242 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,844 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/09/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted November 27, 2019 36 minutes ago, Raven said: Do you see the truth, or what you want to see? When you are happy to see someone, is it because you see their truth, their innermost reality; or do you see an opportunity to further establish, or strengthen, your own created identity? Truth? I see what they are, as they would like me to see them, however veiled. As everybody does. That's cool. I think most persona is more what we would like to be, but time reveals the truth. How I see me How others see me How I really am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted November 27, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 395 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 319 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/20/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 6 hours ago, LadyKay said: I guess that would depend on who it is I am seeing. Could you explain further and/or give examples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted November 27, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted November 27, 2019 7 hours ago, Raven said: Do you see the truth, or what you want to see? When you are happy to see someone, is it because you see their truth, their innermost reality; or do you see an opportunity to further establish, or strengthen, your own created identity? I see a male with gray hair from Australia. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted November 27, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 395 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 319 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/20/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Sower said: Truth? I see what they are, as they would like me to see them, however veiled. As everybody does. That's cool. I think most persona is more what we would like to be, but time reveals the truth. How I see me How others see me How I really am People who have an agenda to be seen as as they portray themselves (veiled/mask) are dishonest to themselves and others. In regards to 'How I see me; How others see me; How I really am': If you were dishonest (untrue): You would see yourself as dishonest. Some others will see your dishonesty, while others who don't will be deceived and become dishonest. And how you really are at that moment is dishonest and conditional to yourself and others. If you were honest (true): You would see yourself as true. Others will either see your honesty or their own dishonesty, in either case they will not be deceived by your honesty, except for their own dishonesty. And how you really are at that moment is honesty and unconditional to yourself and others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted November 27, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 395 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 319 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/20/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 7 hours ago, maryjayne said: Impossible to know. Sounds like one of those opening lines in a philosophy debate. So, if Truth stood in front of you, you would not know? I am fairly sure you would know, for Truth, the Word of God/Truth would penetrate right through you, and you would become still and silent. If you are happy for the opportunity to become dishonest so as to gain something from another person, you may not be fully aware of it due to denial of your own honesty. However, before anybody can deny something, they have to know what they are denying. In this case, the truth of their dishonesty. Nobody can get away with it, with dishonesty. In other words, it is impossible to not know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted November 27, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 395 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 319 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/20/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 28 minutes ago, missmuffet said: I see a male with gray hair from Australia. Ah, you see 'an opportunity to further establish, or strengthen, your own created identity'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted November 27, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 950 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,524 Content Per Day: 5.02 Reputation: 9,025 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted November 27, 2019 9 hours ago, Raven said: Do you see the truth, or what you want to see? I want to see truth. I trust but verify. None the less Bernie got me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted November 27, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 395 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 319 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/20/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, nzkev said: You might be over complicating things, If you see someone it is an amazing opportunity to express Love, Charity While you still have breath If we look at the example of the pharasees or Judas as an example it Didnt. Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk. And they sent out unto him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, Master, we know that thou art true, and teachest the way of God in truth, neither carest thou for any man: for thou regardest not the person of men. Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not? But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites? But if we look at the example of Mary it sure penetrated to her heart didnt exactly silence her tho Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master. Silence refers to being silent of self-will, of ego-self, for it accounts for nothing true. In face of Truth, what is dishonest/untrue is not recognized by Truth. In our honesty, we 'know' what is true, and Truth 'touches' (merges) with that honesty. We let go to let God. We no longer have an issue or agenda to voice, just absolute honesty and surrender to love and serve God most High (Truth). The humble and meek are honest (truthful) and prefer to be silent, for they do not wish to exploit others or themselves, which would be a dishonest way to live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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