BeauJangles Posted December 3, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I understand as predators, mountain lions have caused ongoing concerns when wandering into suburban and metropolitan areas. But to lose them in this manner is rather tragic to say the least. They do help in the eco-chain of attrition, so they aren't totally worthless in the animal food chain. Any comments welcome for or against the the topic. I'm not sure how this will copy/paste, as I'm really new at discovering adequately. Thanks! Mercury in the fog is poisoning Santa Cruz mountain lions, study finds By KTFadmin - December 1, 2019 Facebook Twitter Pinterest WhatsApp Amazon Banner Ads <img class="landscape" src="https://i0.wp.com/s.hdnux.com/photos/62/04/25/13124991/7/920x920.jpg?w=696&ssl=1" data-lazy-state="loaded" alt="FILE: A male mountain lion in Uvas Canyon County Park, which is in the area studied by the Santa Cruz Puma Project. Photo: Sebastian Kennerknecht / Sebastian Kennerknecht / Pumapix.com / © Sebastian Kennerknecht" data-recalc-dims="1"/> FILE: A male mountain lion in Uvas Canyon County Park, which is in the area studied by the Santa Cruz Puma Project. FILE: A male mountain lion in Uvas Canyon County Park, which is in the area studied by the Santa Cruz Puma Project. Photo: Sebastian Kennerknecht / Sebastian Kennerknecht / Pumapix.com Photo: Sebastian Kennerknecht / Sebastian Kennerknecht / Pumapix.com FILE: A male mountain lion in Uvas Canyon County Park, which is in the area studied by the Santa Cruz Puma Project. FILE: A male mountain lion in Uvas Canyon County Park, which is in the area studied by the Santa Cruz Puma Project. Photo: Sebastian Kennerknecht / Sebastian Kennerknecht / Pumapix.com Mercury in the fog is poisoning Santa Cruz mountain lions, study finds This story originally appeared on KSBW. SANTA CRUZ, Calif. — The Central Coast’s marine fog is bringing more than cool temperatures. A new study shows there is mercury in the fog that is linked to elevated levels of mercury in mountain lions. “We admire mountain lions, we fear mountain lions, they are our competition with us in some ways because they will eat livestock. But we depend on there being mountain lions,” said Peter Weiss-Penzias, associate researcher at the University of California, Santa Cruz. The study was published Tuesday by researchers at UC Santa Cruz, including its lead author, Weiss-Penzias, who is an environmental toxicologist. The study discovered high levels of mercury in mountain lions from the Santa Cruz Mountains. The neurotoxin is coming out of the ocean through a process that happens in the deep ocean involving mercury. “Comes out of the ocean, into the atmosphere where the fog acts as a stabilizing medium to absorb the mercury and waft over to land,” Weiss-Penzias said. Those levels of mercury are approaching toxic thresholds for mountain lions in the Santa Cruz Mountains. That finding based on the fur and whiskers of 94 mountain lions. Researchers say the danger zone for mercury levels is between 3 and 21 parts per million. The average for the 94 pumas tested is 1.5 parts per million. “There were a number of individuals that exceeded the threshold, I think six altogether and one of them exceeded the 21 parts per million level and it was dead. It was found dead, and (there is) no known cause of death,” Weiss-Penzias said. The study was twofold. It tested mercury levels in mountain lions and their food source deer and lichen, a moss type plant that deer eat. The other part is testing the mercury levels in the fog. Weiss-Penzias showed off the fog machine they place on the roof of their building to collect samples. “The fan pulls the air through, the fog goes in and it hits the strings. And they drip down to a little tray,” he explains. From there, the researcher said he takes it to another machine to register the amount of mercury is in the samples. “Comes out the other side and goes into this detector, which is very specific for mercury,” he explained. The researcher said mercury release is a global issue. “Solutions are hard to come by. Turning the mercury off at the source is going to be the most important thing,” Weiss-Penzias said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted December 3, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted December 3, 2019 I read this is a more scientific publication. One thing I noted is the small sample size they used. Not really good science. The other thing I noted is how this is just one of many different problems mountain lions along the coast of california face. So Im not sure how significant this is. Then the researchers immediately went into the climate change must stop using coal etc speech. From facts to hype and panic among the scientists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted December 3, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, BeauJangles said: I understand as predators, mountain lions have caused ongoing concerns when wandering into suburban and metropolitan areas. But to lose them in this manner is rather tragic to say the least. They do help in the eco-chain of attrition, so they aren't totally worthless in the animal food chain. Any comments welcome for or against the the topic. I'm not sure how this will copy/paste, as I'm really new at discovering adequately. Thanks! Mercury in the fog is poisoning Santa Cruz mountain lions, study finds By KTFadmin - December 1, 2019 Facebook Twitter Pinterest WhatsApp Amazon Banner Ads <img class="landscape" src="https://i0.wp.com/s.hdnux.com/photos/62/04/25/13124991/7/920x920.jpg?w=696&ssl=1" data-lazy-state="loaded" alt="FILE: A male mountain lion in Uvas Canyon County Park, which is in the area studied by the Santa Cruz Puma Project. Photo: Sebastian Kennerknecht / Sebastian Kennerknecht / Pumapix.com / © Sebastian Kennerknecht" data-recalc-dims="1"/> FILE: A male mountain lion in Uvas Canyon County Park, which is in the area studied by the Santa Cruz Puma Project. FILE: A male mountain lion in Uvas Canyon County Park, which is in the area studied by the Santa Cruz Puma Project. Photo: Sebastian Kennerknecht / Sebastian Kennerknecht / Pumapix.com Photo: Sebastian Kennerknecht / Sebastian Kennerknecht / Pumapix.com FILE: A male mountain lion in Uvas Canyon County Park, which is in the area studied by the Santa Cruz Puma Project. FILE: A male mountain lion in Uvas Canyon County Park, which is in the area studied by the Santa Cruz Puma Project. Photo: Sebastian Kennerknecht / Sebastian Kennerknecht / Pumapix.com Mercury in the fog is poisoning Santa Cruz mountain lions, study finds This story originally appeared on KSBW. SANTA CRUZ, Calif. — The Central Coast’s marine fog is bringing more than cool temperatures. A new study shows there is mercury in the fog that is linked to elevated levels of mercury in mountain lions. “We admire mountain lions, we fear mountain lions, they are our competition with us in some ways because they will eat livestock. But we depend on there being mountain lions,” said Peter Weiss-Penzias, associate researcher at the University of California, Santa Cruz. The study was published Tuesday by researchers at UC Santa Cruz, including its lead author, Weiss-Penzias, who is an environmental toxicologist. The study discovered high levels of mercury in mountain lions from the Santa Cruz Mountains. The neurotoxin is coming out of the ocean through a process that happens in the deep ocean involving mercury. “Comes out of the ocean, into the atmosphere where the fog acts as a stabilizing medium to absorb the mercury and waft over to land,” Weiss-Penzias said. Those levels of mercury are approaching toxic thresholds for mountain lions in the Santa Cruz Mountains. That finding based on the fur and whiskers of 94 mountain lions. Researchers say the danger zone for mercury levels is between 3 and 21 parts per million. The average for the 94 pumas tested is 1.5 parts per million. “There were a number of individuals that exceeded the threshold, I think six altogether and one of them exceeded the 21 parts per million level and it was dead. It was found dead, and (there is) no known cause of death,” Weiss-Penzias said. The study was twofold. It tested mercury levels in mountain lions and their food source deer and lichen, a moss type plant that deer eat. The other part is testing the mercury levels in the fog. Weiss-Penzias showed off the fog machine they place on the roof of their building to collect samples. “The fan pulls the air through, the fog goes in and it hits the strings. And they drip down to a little tray,” he explains. From there, the researcher said he takes it to another machine to register the amount of mercury is in the samples. “Comes out the other side and goes into this detector, which is very specific for mercury,” he explained. The researcher said mercury release is a global issue. “Solutions are hard to come by. Turning the mercury off at the source is going to be the most important thing,” Weiss-Penzias said. That is sad. But our world is deteriorating. Can you see that? God is in control of everything that happens on this earth. Why? I don't have a clue. Is God getting the earth ready for the 7 year tribulation? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted December 3, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, missmuffet said: That is sad. But our world is deteriorating. Can you see that? Can you see that? God is in control of everything that happens on this earth. Why? I don't have a clue. Is God getting the earth ready for the 7 year tribulation? Amen. Yes, I can. It seems since the Fall of Man the world has been pretty much programmed in this manner. Romans 8:22 KJV 22For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. Since the late 1960's, theologians have felt we are in the End Times. How much closer are we now? I think very close. Of course, back then there were prophesies yet to be fulfilled. It would appear all is simply waiting for it to occur. Personally, I am getting very homesick for Heaven. I'm longing for the day to be called home. Edited December 3, 2019 by BeauJangles 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted December 3, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, ayin jade said: I read this is a more scientific publication. One thing I noted is the small sample size they used. Not really good science. Thank you for your thoughts and opinion. I'll attempt to gather further findings for you. I'm already embarrassed at my extremely poor abilities of my copy/paste on the first post, so let's give it a try for more info shall we? Perhaps more who feel this is to be an obvious concern will help to convince you of the apparent problem. And yes, these are scientific publications. I couldn't access any biblical ones on the topic. Edited December 3, 2019 by BeauJangles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted December 3, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 Mercury fog mountain lions, Toxic fog blamed for ... https://www.serialpressit.com/2019/12/03/mercury-fog-mountain-lions-toxic-fog-blamed... 1 hour ago · Mercury fog mountain lions, Toxic fog blamed for dangerously high mercury. Coastal fog may be carrying toxic levels of methylmercury, which is then dumped on the land and makes its way up the food chain and contaminates mountain lions living in the region, according to a study by UC Santa Cruz researchers. Mercury in the fog is poisoning Santa Cruz mountain lions ... https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Mercury-in-the-fog-is-poisoning-Santa-Cruz... 1 day ago · Those levels of mercury are approaching toxic thresholds for mountain lions in the Santa Cruz Mountains. That finding based on the fur and whiskers of 94 mountain lions… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted December 3, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 Coastal fog linked to high levels of mercury found in ... https://phys.org/news/2019-11-coastal-fog-linked-high-mercury.html 6 days ago · Researchers at UC Santa Cruz have discovered elevated levels of mercury in mountain lions, the latest indication that the neurotoxin is being carried in fog… Fog brings poison mercury to Santa Cruz Mountains ... https://www.sfchronicle.com/environment/article/Fog-brings-poison-mercury-to-Santa... 7 days ago · Three times as much mercury has been found in mountain lions in the Santa Cruz Mountains than in their inland brethren, and the likely culprit is coastal fog, a first-of-its-kind study by UC Santa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted December 3, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 3 hours ago, ayin jade said: So Im not sure how significant this is. Then the researchers immediately went into the climate change must stop using coal etc speech. From facts to hype and panic among the scientists. Looks fairly significant to me. Again, thanks for your contribution to this thread. I love the big cats. ALL cats for that matter, and I see this an unfortunate occurrence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted December 3, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 Mercury Poisoning Medical condition Mercury poisoning is a type of metal poisoning due to exposure to mercury. Symptoms depend upon the type, dose, method, and duration of exposure. They may include muscle weakness, poor coordination, numbness in the hands and feet, skin rashes, anxiety, memory problems, trouble speaking, trouble hearing, or trouble seeing. High-level exposure to methylmercury is known as Minamata disease. Methylmercury exposure in children may result in acrodynia (pink disease) in which the skin becomes pink and peels. Long-term complications may include kidney problems and decreased intelligence. The effects of long-term low-dose exposure to methylmercury are unclear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted December 3, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) Hi @Debp, Both you and I are more than fond of our furry little friends. Sorry for going off-topic, but so does everyone else on this forum. I couldn't get a decent copy/paste from this source, but perhaps you may recall Lil Bub, the famous internet cat. Anyway, she passed away at the young feline age of eight. Here's the article. Lil Bub, Famous Internet Cat, Dead at 8 Bub worked with Steve Albini, Whoopi Goldberg, Run the Jewels, Andrew W.K., and more in her lifetime Internet-famous cat Lil Bub has died, as BrooklynVegan notes. “On the morning of Sunday, December 1 2019 we lost the purest, kindest, and most magical living force on our planet,” Bub’s “dude” Mike Bridavsky announced. “Bub was cheerful and full of love laying in our bed with us Saturday night, but unexpectedly passed away peacefully in her sleep.” Lil Bub was 8 years old. Find Bridavsky’s note below. A polydactyl cat born with several other genetic abnormalities—including feline dwarfism, osteoporosis, and a trait that left her permanently a kitten—Lil Bub was adopted by musician Mike Bridavsky. He began posting about her on Tumblr in 2011, and her large, green eyes, rolling tongue, and miniature appearance quickly made her a sensation. Lil Bub went on to publish a book, host her own web series, and record music. She also dedicated her life to highlighting special needs and homeless cats, working closely with the ASPCA to raise money for both groups. Born as part of a feral litter discovered in Indiana, Bub was the runt. Bridavsky took her home, and saw something special in her unique features. “That’s the reason I started sharing her: I was super-proud of her and I really thought she was the most amazing creature,” he told SPIN. In 2013, she began hosting the web series Lil Bub’s Big Show, which saw the likes of Steve Albini and Whoopi Golberg stop by to talk. She also recorded an album, collaborated with Andrew W.K. (“Star Party Animal”), appeared in Run the Jewels’s “Meow Purrdy” video, and released a special 7" split with Surfer Blood featuring her song “Bub the Builder” on the B-side. Edited December 3, 2019 by BeauJangles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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