Survey on Dreams

[Neighbor]

3 hours ago, rontiger said:

The NYT article DustyRoad linked said 75% of Americans dreamt in black & white in the 1940s and said people in 2008 ,under 25, dreamt in color almost always. Only 12 percent  in 2008  dreamt always in black and white. They said the change was because of the advent of color tv. Can they be right? Does the Bible have anyone in it dream in color? Didn't king Nebuchadnezzar  in the book of Daniel see a dream of the human statue with a "golden head and silver torso"?  Anyways I am truly shocked that some only dream in black and white. I asked a couple of guys  yesterday and they dream in color.Yet you and 12 percent don't. It makes me wonder what else am I  wrongly assuming everyone experiences the same way I do?

"They said the change was because of the advent of color tv. Can they be right? "

If they are right  I think they have to conclude that people of the 1940's  dreamed in radio sound. Fuzzy B&W tv images were mostly of wrestling matches. Color tv started in 1951 but color broadcasting was not common at all until the early 1960's  why it even required getting special antennas. Remember TV antennas? Oh the "color" image itself  was  on those round lensed picture tubes that needed degaussing every time mom ran the vacuum cleaner near it. Early color tv was really poor quality imagery.

Back then there were tv repairmen and everyone had their own favorite  guy that came out changed tubes and degaussed the tv. Some of us would change tubes ourselves and buy new ones at that  tube testing station at the front of the grocery store. We eventually bought our own degaussing ring. I was the teenage household tv degausser and tube replacement guy, always in front of  the Muntz color tv /high fidelity stereo cabinet fine tuning the picture adjusting verticals and horizontals and width and height and color ranges every time mom vacuumed too near the tv. Plus I operated the color tv antenna "tower" rotator!  Not too fast, not too fast! Wait, don't change rotation direction too soon, let it stop,  come to a full rest then reverse it. You will strip the gears if you don't wait. Oh how often I heard that  warning. Wow big time stuff. Strip the gears and the antenna guy has to come out.

Meanwhile dad was rather busy building and blowing up rockets for the space race with the Russians.

Dreams in color? Hmm  I think at my home we dreamed in smells, often of the smell of bits of space rocketry that was on the dining room table, glues, rubber, all sorts of metal and milling chemicals.

Awesome how times have progressed, and we are still here, looking up.

[JTC]

7 hours ago, rontiger said:

 It makes me wonder what else am I  wrongly assuming everyone experiences the same way I do?

I don't know how many things you are wrongly assuming we all experience the same and yet don't, but there may be a lot of them. In scholarly circles this is referred to as individual differences and it seems to effect everything, some things greater than others. Pain is 1 thing that comes to mind. Some people can tolerate more pain than others. What we don't know yet is why there are these individual differences but I tend to think it's more of physical reason than a psychological one. Way back when I was studying this stuff my pov was not the more popular one. But back then we knew almost nothing about the brain. I think we still know very little about the brain but I know a few advances have been made. Of course if there were no individual differences in people what a boring world this would be.

[JTC]

I usually don't recall my dreams but sleep specialists say we dream every night, I'm taking their word for it. Whenever I do recall a dream it's almost always B&W but yesterday was an exception. Neighbor asked if it matters and I'd say no unless the color you remember has a meaning related to the dream. Always remember the same color can mean different things to the same person in different dreams. I also subscribe to the idea that pleasant dreams are usually wish fulfillment dreams. Yesterday I had such a dream with the color green in it. In the dream I was in a green room that belonged to a dear Aunt who passed away 4 yrs ago. The room was odd in that not only was everything in it colored green but also the walls ceiling and the floor was all green. It was also a very bright green like one might see in a meadow during the springtime. I analyze dreams by associating to the symbols, but in this dream I started with the color green. Using this method I concluded that this dream was a wish fulfillment that this dear Aunt was still alive. I feel like the green represents life which I wish my Aunt still was. There was a lot more going on in that dream but I don't remember exactly what. This is an example of how a color in a dream can have a meaning relevant for that dream.

[TheBlade]

Short is both.. and cartoon lol. 

[rontiger]

On ‎12‎/‎27‎/‎2019 at 11:42 AM, JTC said:

I don't know how many things you are wrongly assuming we all experience the same and yet don't, but there may be a lot of them. In scholarly circles this is referred to as individual differences and it seems to effect everything, some things greater than others. Pain is 1 thing that comes to mind. Some people can tolerate more pain than others. What we don't know yet is why there are these individual differences but I tend to think it's more of physical reason than a psychological one. Way back when I was studying this stuff my pov was not the more popular one. But back then we knew almost nothing about the brain. I think we still know very little about the brain but I know a few advances have been made. Of course if there were no individual differences in people what a boring world this would be.

Are you one of the fairly rare(or fairly common?)human tetrachromats? Tetrachromats have 4 different types of color sensing "cones" in their eyes compared with only 3 different types of cones(trichromatic color vision) in the normal population.  "Functional tetrachromats" can see 100x the number of colors as the rest of us- they see about 100 million colors. Actually some researchers say 12 percent of women have the 4 different cone types; however only  about 2 percent of women are functional tetrachromats(but there is a lot of uncertainty about this number.)  So far it seems only women have been detected with this "supervision" with very high certainty. Who knows , in the future these women tetrachromats might do important work in different industries.(Was Eve a functional tetrachromat? It could be that the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil shimmered in incredibly beautiful colors that Adam couldn't see and the enemy knew this.)

 It seems the research in tetrachromatic vision is ongoing and there is disagreement. The 2% estimate for functional(true) tetrachromats in the female population might end up being too high or too low.(Wikipedia cites a study that says 50 percent of women and 8% of men have increased color sensitivity . However this was an older [1998]study.)

It also seems the tricolor "RGB" system that computer/video screens use cannot produce the colors functional tetrachromatic woman see. So internet tests are useless according to the Newcastle University Tetrachromacy Project page.

JTC, I was channel-surfing some time after I asked you "what else am I assuming wrongly that people all experience in like manner" when I caught the ending of a docu. that introduced me to this subject. Now I am thinking "wow"  if maybe half of women have some type of supercolor vision then we are  in fact really experiencing life somewhat differently. You know you might have to update your poll question to include "supercolor" as one of the options,lol-that is, of course, if an easy,offline. test is developed.

I want to see in supercolor too. I guess I'll have to wait till I get my glorified eternal body when Christ returns for his Church. Maybe our glorified bodies will see "colors" that will  make our earthly color vision seem black and white. Heaven is going to be unbelievably amazing.

Thank you Lord Jesus Christ.

 

 

[IloveyouGod.]

Well to answer one off you guys questions.  I dream in color and black and white.  I also almost always dream in silent mode little to know sound.  The interesting thing is I can control my dreams without even trying so..... I tend to also dream from an outside perspective.  Just like I remember things so that might have something to do with the way someone dreams?   That is for the good dreams the bad ones make one want to shudder so they shall not be mentiomed.  I probably went way off topic but.....  

Just my thoughts.

Forgot to mention this but I am female.

Edited January 8, 2020 by IloveyouGod.
Forgot something.

[JTC]

14 hours ago, IloveyouGod. said:

The interesting thing is I can control my dreams without even trying so.

That must be really nice. I could only control my dreams a few times in my life. It had to do with the meds I was taking but some people can do it naturally. I never tried asking people if they can control their dreams, I'll have to consider that.