Neighbor Posted January 2, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 950 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,523 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,025 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Online Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted January 2, 2020 WHERE DO ALL THE WHITE HORSES COME FROM? ------- Revelation 19:11-16 English Standard Version (ESV) The Rider on a White Horse Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war. His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he has a name written that no one knows but himself. He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God. And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses. From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted January 2, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 950 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,523 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,025 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Online Birthday: 03/03/1885 Author Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Neighbor said: heaven opened, If they have come from heaven, does that become any evidence of animals in heaven, or of animals going to heaven? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deborah_ Posted January 2, 2020 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 790 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 878 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/07/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 2, 2020 Revelation is a vision. The horses, like everything else, are symbolic. So they are not evidence for the existence of animals in heaven. "Riding on a white horse" is a pictorial way of saying that Christ has absolute power (and that it is unsullied by sin). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted January 2, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Deborah_ said: Revelation is a vision. Yes. A vision of what will be. And it will occur as it is written. 1 hour ago, Deborah_ said: The horses, like everything else, are symbolic. So they are not evidence for the existence of animals in heaven. Neither is there evidence of no creatures in heaven. The bible says there are, and I believe it. 1 hour ago, Deborah_ said: "Riding on a white horse" is a pictorial way of saying that Christ has absolute power (and that it is unsullied by sin). Again, the word of God says this will happen. Revelation is not a symbolistic fantasy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deborah_ Posted January 2, 2020 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 790 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 878 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/07/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, BeauJangles said: Neither is there evidence of no creatures in heaven. The bible says there are, and I believe it. Actually, I agree there will be animals in the future life. I just find the evidence elsewhere. 6 minutes ago, BeauJangles said: Again, the word of God says this will happen. Revelation is not a symbolistic fantasy. Fantasy - no. Symbolic - yes. Personally, I don't think that Revelation should be interpreted literally, but we might have to agree to disagree on that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPassingThru Posted January 2, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,979 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 2,112 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted January 2, 2020 But Jesus said to John: Write the things which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be after this, Rev 1:19 What did John see? ...Jesus in His glorified state/body, chapter 1, ...is that "only" symbolic? What are the things which are? The church Age, chapters 2 and 3, ...is that "only" symbolic? What are the things which shall be after this? The Church in Heaven, the last "Week" of Daniel's 70 Week prophecy, the Millennium, the Great White Throne Judgement, the New Jerusalem and the New Heavens and the New Earth, chapters 4 through 22, ...are ALL of these things "only" symbolic? The Revelation is the "only" book of the 66 that God pronounces a blessing on those read, hear and keeps the things written in it. We read it and allow the Holy Spirit to teach us and we "keep," meaning we "attend to carefully," what we hear Him telling us: Blessed is the one who reads and hears the Words of this prophecy, and the ones keeping the things written in it, for the time is near. Rev 1:3 The Apocalypse (Revelation) is Jesus "unveiling" what the future is to His Church, ...it's about as "symbolic" as "the Word became flesh and dwelt among us;" Lord bless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 2, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Neighbor said: WHERE DO ALL THE WHITE HORSES COME FROM? ------- Revelation 19:11-16 English Standard Version (ESV) The Rider on a White Horse Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war. His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he has a name written that no one knows but himself. He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God. And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses. From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords. Heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 2, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Neighbor said: If they have come from heaven, does that become any evidence of animals in heaven, or of animals going to heaven? Our pets do not have souls so they do not go to heaven. There will be animals in heaven. There were animals in the garden of Eden. Edited January 2, 2020 by missmuffet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted January 2, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Deborah_ said: Fantasy - no. Symbolic - yes. Personally, I don't think that Revelation should be interpreted literally, but we might have to agree to disagree on that point. Symbolic - yes? Wow... Okay. I guess we really do disagree about that then. Disputing the validity of God's word is something I don't do. At this point I'll bow out of the thread. Happy New Year, Deborah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 2, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Deborah_ said: Revelation is a vision. The horses, like everything else, are symbolic. So they are not evidence for the existence of animals in heaven. "Riding on a white horse" is a pictorial way of saying that Christ has absolute power (and that it is unsullied by sin). I do not think the horses were symbolic but literal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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