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On 1/5/2020 at 10:00 PM, JoeCanada said:

Watch.......and pray..........and prepare

I personally believe America as a nation, is long overdue a national judgment from God. No need to list all the reasons why, because it's blatantly obvious. 

Few Christians, scholars and Bible students would argue we are not living at the tail end of the end times I don't believe. We all know America is not specifically mentioned in the end times, it does not come to the aid of Israel, nor a player in the tribulation. Currently being the globes [or a ] global superpower with the worlds most powerful military at present; should make one think upon this. 

The question always arises, where is America and what happened? We see the destruction of America occurring right before our very own eyes, a house divided can not stand. We're at war with ourselves on every front; good vs. evil, Conservative vs. Democrat, haves vs. have not's, insurmountable debt and consumption; annulling the Second Amendment and government tyranny breaking out, potential civil war and conflict, no longer a sovereign nation defined by borders, an entitlement mentality that everything should be given to us, on and on and on.

We must soon have an economic collapse; 20 TRILLION in government debt and climbing that can never be repaid. Our national growth is measured and determined by how much we SPEND and borrow ourselves into deeper debt. The preceding doesn't even take into account personal debt and little savings. By any measure or standard; we're insolvent and bankrupt. We're a fragile nation living on borrowed time from the patience of the Lord.

So many things could take US down overnight: Natural volcanic eruptions [super volcano], tsunamis, hurricanes, economic collapse, multiple terrorist attacks and terrorist cells and martial law, an EMP strike, civil war, a nuclear strike(s) by one or more of our nuclear capable enemies, suitcase nuclear weapons, and dozens of other things in singular or combination. I don't hold out any hope for our nation in the following verse.

2 Chronicles 7:14 (KJV) If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

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52 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

With that said; the Gog-Magog invasion is composed almost entirely of Muslims, it will be a cloud of invaders. The Bible states 5/6 of these Muslims [and probably their home countries] will be decimated and destroyed. The Bible explicitly states, all will know this comes from the God of the Bible. Question: After this destruction and knowing from where it came, how many of the Muslim faith will be left, how many will know they were believing in a false moon god Allah? I suspect this is when and where Islam is destroyed;

Hi Dennis,

If this is immediately before the return of Christ, after the Battle of Armageddon,  then I would agree. But if this is before the 70th week, or early into the 70th week, then I would strongly disagree. 

Here is where a mixture of biblical prophecy and fantasy collide with the harsh realities of demographics. If we list every single nation that has ever been even suggested as being part of both Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 38,39, this would still only represent less than one-third of the total Muslim world population. If every single soldier in every nation that has ever been suggested as being part of Psalm 83 or Ezekiel 38,39 was gone, this would only represent less than 2 percent of the total 1.6 billion Muslims of the world. So because a mere 2 percent of the Muslims of the world are defeated, somehow this means that the other 1.6 billion Muslims will no longer exist or that they will all suddenly convert to a new religion?

Let’s take this scenario even further. Let’s imagine that every single person in every one of these nations was removed from the picture, leaving not a single survivor, man, woman or child, something no one is even suggesting will occur, then how would this change things? Would Islam be “wiped out” as the denialists claim? Far from it. In fact, there would still remain well over a billion Muslims worldwide. Islam would continue to have more adherents than Protestant Christianity globally. Muslims would continue to be a vast and vibrant force worldwide

 Any suggestion that Islam will disappear from the earth several years prior to the return of Jesus is a fantasy.

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4 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

I hold a somewhat differing view, and that doesn't mean or imply it's the right one. Currently, Russia's military is composed of about 40% Muslim, and their Muslim population is exploding like most everywhere else. The first century Jewish historian Flavis Josephus, and the so called 'father of history' Herodotus identifies with no doubt whom Rosh and Magog is, and whom the king of the far North is [today's Russia]. The Scythian's were the Magog's; the Great Wall of China was named, "the Ramparts of Magog". 

With that said; the Gog-Magog invasion is composed almost entirely of Muslims, it will be a cloud of invaders. The Bible states 5/6 of these Muslims [and probably their home countries] will be decimated and destroyed. The Bible explicitly states, all will know this comes from the God of the Bible. Question: After this destruction and knowing from where it came, how many of the Muslim faith will be left, how many will know they were believing in a false moon god Allah? I suspect this is when and where Islam is destroyed; and I believe the Harlot religion is the Roman church / state.

The King of the North in the Gog/Magog wars is not the King of the North in the Anti-Christ's assault on Israel and the MANY [Nations] of the Mediterranean Sea Region. Gog and Magog seems to be a war that happens before the 70th week, and God Himself kills the Armies with fire as they rush the Mountain of God. In Revelation we see Gog and Magog happens after the 1000 year reign of Christ, so who really knows when it happens, Ezekiel could be talking about a war that happens at the end of the 1000 year of Christ Jesus, after all, they are consumed by fire in both situations. So who knows when the Gog Magog war happens ? Its said to be after Satan is loosed in Rev. 20. 

The King of the North comes out of Europe to Conquer Israel ans the MANY in Dan. 11:40-43, we are told he comes from the Northwest. 

So if its after the 1000 year reign, I gotta assume there would be no Muslims on earth, so the fact that its confusing via when it happens is an important part of the puzzle, but either way, Gog is not the Anti-Christ, it either happens BEFORE the 70th week, like many people say, or 1000 years after Jesus reign on earth begins. 

4 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

Ezekiel 39:6 (KJV) And I will send a fire on Magog [Russia], and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD. [emphasis and interpretation added]

The above verse could be supernatural and fire and brimstone from God Himself. Or this could refer to and sounds like possibly a nuclear exchange. In biblical interpretation isles generally represent land(s) across a great body of water. Given the condition and culture of the United States at present, and its drift to self destruction, civil war, dismantling its military under liberal - socialist control and unpreparedness for a surprise nuclear attack. Are we included in the 'isles'? Is this a possible explanation of why the globes superpower is unwilling or unable to come to the aid of our friend and ally Israel. Antisemitism is rearing its ugly head here in America and globally once again in earnest, especially under demoncratic control of government. 

We all have a different hermeneutic view of eschatology, but we're all seeing the signs, events, alliances and buildups of the soon to come prophetic events occurring right before our very own eyes. No doubt we're in for some surprises, and say, Wow, I didn't see that coming.

If this happens before the 70th week, and it has to happen BEFORE the 70th week begins OR after the 1000 years of Jesus' reign when Satan is loosed, so that would have nothing to do with THE ANTI-CHRIST and his Kings Destroying {Judging} the Harlot {Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Pagan Religions, Witchcraft, and all false gods/Religions of all time} in Rev. 17:16. 

The Islam Religion gets wiped out by the Anti-Christ in Rev. 17:16 which happens during Revelation chapter 6. 

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3 hours ago, JoeCanada said:

Hi Dennis,

If this is immediately before the return of Christ, after the Battle of Armageddon,  then I would agree. But if this is before the 70th week, or early into the 70th week, then I would strongly disagree. 

Here is where a mixture of biblical prophecy and fantasy collide with the harsh realities of demographics. If we list every single nation that has ever been even suggested as being part of both Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 38,39, this would still only represent less than one-third of the total Muslim world population. If every single soldier in every nation that has ever been suggested as being part of Psalm 83 or Ezekiel 38,39 was gone, this would only represent less than 2 percent of the total 1.6 billion Muslims of the world. So because a mere 2 percent of the Muslims of the world are defeated, somehow this means that the other 1.6 billion Muslims will no longer exist or that they will all suddenly convert to a new religion?

Let’s take this scenario even further. Let’s imagine that every single person in every one of these nations was removed from the picture, leaving not a single survivor, man, woman or child, something no one is even suggesting will occur, then how would this change things? Would Islam be “wiped out” as the denialists claim? Far from it. In fact, there would still remain well over a billion Muslims worldwide. Islam would continue to have more adherents than Protestant Christianity globally. Muslims would continue to be a vast and vibrant force worldwide

 Any suggestion that Islam will disappear from the earth several years prior to the return of Jesus is a fantasy.

Islam is not synonymous the people who are Muslims. So they can worship this Beast man as god or DIE !! So in that manner, Islam will be wiped out as per a Religion that is allowed to exist. If these Muslims privately pray to Allah, but then in public have to CONFIRM the Deity of this MAN as god, then in essence, Islam is wiped out, as will Hinduism, Buddhism, and all the false religions, and he will come after Judaism and Christianity also, the later not being a false religion of course, but his goal is not to Judge the Harlot, that is God's goal in Rev. 17:1, and He places it in the Anti-Christs heart to do his will {Rev. 17:17 says so}, but the Anti-Christ HEART is to be worshiped as THE ONLY GOD !! That is why Islam will be wiped off the face of the earth as far as a public religion is concerned. He kills 1/4 of ALL MANKIND, who do you think he kills / Those who refuse to Worship him as god !! Hes not killing Christians per se {besides the Remnant Church who repents after the Rapture, who are the Martyrs of the 5th Seal} hes killing Muslims and others who refuse to knell down to him. 

So if those "MUSLIMS" worship this man wherever they may be at, they will be spared, but then they are worshiping the Beast, and have taken the Mark of the Beast, so in essence, they are no longer Muslims, they are Beast Worshipers. Islam will not be allowed via the Beasts order. He orders the same dictates via ALL Religions, even Christianity. There is a reason he kills 1.5 to 2 billion people. And if I had to guess which religious group will resist the most and thus suffer the majority of deaths it will be the Muslims who are now so fanatical they blow themselves up to "PLEASE" their so called god, and the Remnant Church {who knows how many this will be, the Church was Raptured to Heaven}. I see Hindus and Buddhist as pliable to any religion, they are not dedicated to anything imho, they are just fakers/weirdos who worship monkey's and cows etc. etc. 

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4 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

The King of the North in the Gog/Magog wars is not the King of the North in the Anti-Christ's assault on Israel and the MANY [Nations] of the Mediterranean Sea Region. Gog and Magog seems to be a war that happens before the 70th week, and God Himself kills the Armies with fire as they rush the Mountain of God. In Revelation we see Gog and Magog happens after the 1000 year reign of Christ, so who really knows when it happens, Ezekiel could be talking about a war that happens at the end of the 1000 year of Christ Jesus, after all, they are consumed by fire in both situations. So who knows when the Gog Magog war happens ? Its said to be after Satan is loosed in Rev. 20. 

The King of the North comes out of Europe to Conquer Israel ans the MANY in Dan. 11:40-43, we are told he comes from the Northwest. 

So if its after the 1000 year reign, I gotta assume there would be no Muslims on earth, so the fact that its confusing via when it happens is an important part of the puzzle, but either way, Gog is not the Anti-Christ, it either happens BEFORE the 70th week, like many people say, or 1000 years after Jesus reign on earth begins. 

If this happens before the 70th week, and it has to happen BEFORE the 70th week begins OR after the 1000 years of Jesus' reign when Satan is loosed, so that would have nothing to do with THE ANTI-CHRIST and his Kings Destroying {Judging} the Harlot {Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Pagan Religions, Witchcraft, and all false gods/Religions of all time} in Rev. 17:16. 

The Islam Religion gets wiped out by the Anti-Christ in Rev. 17:16 which happens during Revelation chapter 6. 

It appears to me these are two separate and distinct events [Gog-Magog], separated by about 1,000 years. The first Gog-Magog invasion they come to Israel to take a spoil. A thousand years later, they come to overthrow Christ Himself. It appears the title "Gog" is like king or leader, I suspect it might be a demonic title. Once again, Magog would be the geographical location after the millennium when Satan is loosed for a brief time after his 1,000 year confinement. My thoughts of course are my personal hermeneutic opinion at this point in history, and may not be accurate. I see Gog and the Antichrist as two separate and distinct entities.

Many hold the view that this 1st Gog-Magog invasion happens sometime in the tribulation period? If that's the correct view, there's an objection that no scholars or teachers seems to want to address. The Bible clearly states Israel will be burning those weapons of war [probably nuclear] for seven full years. In the middle of the tribulation when the abomination of desolation occurs; Jew's, Christians and probably everyone in Israel is going to flee for their lives. The question is; whom would be left to continue burning those weapons, and who would even care to? Israel is burning these weapons for fuel, and I don't see anyone burning those weapons years into the millennium. So, given my hermeneutic understanding, it appears to me, the Ezekiel 38: - 39: invasion has to start a minimum of 3 1/2 prior to the official start of the tribulation? 

It's amazing, never in the history of Russian expansion have they been involved in the middle-east or had defense compacts, treaties and alliances with Muslim nations. Now they have agreements with the North Africa Muslim nations and all the major players listed in the Bible that come against Israel. We see the stage being set in Syria [North of Israel] as we speak, with Russia, Iran and Turkey already in occupation, with the US pulling out. Turkey, a once friendly secular nation toward Israel where Israeli's once took their vacations to. Now shifted to radical Islam with a hatred toward Israel and a vision to restore their former Ottoman glory and power under Recep Tayyip Erdogan. 

These are exciting times to live in, watching the convergence of everything prophetic, and knowing our redemption is drawing near!

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I have a casual friend who is from Syria. This person thinks that the General should have not been killed. This person thinks that there were other ways to solve the problem. This person thinks that killing the General is going to cause some very serious problems. This person also thinks that it is very possible Trump will be re elected as President. 

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8 hours ago, JoeCanada said:

Hi Dennis,

If this is immediately before the return of Christ, after the Battle of Armageddon,  then I would agree. But if this is before the 70th week, or early into the 70th week, then I would strongly disagree. 

Here is where a mixture of biblical prophecy and fantasy collide with the harsh realities of demographics. If we list every single nation that has ever been even suggested as being part of both Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 38,39, this would still only represent less than one-third of the total Muslim world population. If every single soldier in every nation that has ever been suggested as being part of Psalm 83 or Ezekiel 38,39 was gone, this would only represent less than 2 percent of the total 1.6 billion Muslims of the world. So because a mere 2 percent of the Muslims of the world are defeated, somehow this means that the other 1.6 billion Muslims will no longer exist or that they will all suddenly convert to a new religion?

Let’s take this scenario even further. Let’s imagine that every single person in every one of these nations was removed from the picture, leaving not a single survivor, man, woman or child, something no one is even suggesting will occur, then how would this change things? Would Islam be “wiped out” as the denialists claim? Far from it. In fact, there would still remain well over a billion Muslims worldwide. Islam would continue to have more adherents than Protestant Christianity globally. Muslims would continue to be a vast and vibrant force worldwide

 Any suggestion that Islam will disappear from the earth several years prior to the return of Jesus is a fantasy.

Hey JoeCanada!

Whatever our hermeneutic prophetic view, seeing through a glass half darkly is rapidly clearing up in our lifetime. None of us have all the details and especially not the timing of what is to come. It's an educated guess and speculation based on our understanding of scripture at this point, but it will happen. 

Right now at present, millions of Muslims are questioning their religious belief and faith in Allah. Its been reported by a number of credible Christian organizations involved in preaching the Gospel in Iran, Iraq and other Muslim nations; the Lord is giving them visions and dreams and many are converting to Christianity, even under penalty of death. If the great Muslim armies and their countries are given such a death blow described in Ezekiel. The Lord states they all will know whom alone defeated and conquered them by Himself. How much faith will remain in their Allah? I only see this as a possibility and there will be some surprises in store I'm sure.

Another possibility I see at this historical point in history; is Pope Francis ecumenical movement uniting all the worlds religions. He has made great strides and signed agreements with Muslim sects and the 'protesters', bringing them all back under the umbrella of 'the one true church'. We definitely see everything changing and shaping up, it's the details that are not crystal clear yet.

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13 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

I have a casual friend who is from Syria. This person thinks that the General should have not been killed. This person thinks that there were other ways to solve the problem. This person thinks that killing the General is going to cause some very serious problems. This person also thinks that it is very possible Trump will be re elected as President. 

My wife just walked in and said 11 missiles just struck our military somewhere in Iraq? This may get interesting?

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27 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

My wife just walked in and said 11 missiles just struck our military somewhere in Iraq? This may get interesting?

Waiting for somebody to come up with a peaceful solution,who could that be?

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59 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

It appears to me these are two separate and distinct events [Gog-Magog], separated by about 1,000 years. The first Gog-Magog invasion they come to Israel to take a spoil. A thousand years later, they come to overthrow Christ Himself. It appears the title "Gog" is like king or leader, I suspect it might be a demonic title. Once again, Magog would be the geographical location after the millennium when Satan is loosed for a brief time after his 1,000 year confinement. My thoughts of course are my personal hermeneutic opinion at this point in history, and may not be accurate. I see Gog and the Antichrist as two separate and distinct entities.

Many hold the view that this 1st Gog-Magog invasion happens sometime in the tribulation period? If that's the correct view, there's an objection that no scholars or teachers seems to want to address. The Bible clearly states Israel will be burning those weapons of war [probably nuclear] for seven full years. In the middle of the tribulation when the abomination of desolation occurs; Jew's, Christians and probably everyone in Israel is going to flee for their lives. The question is; whom would be left to continue burning those weapons, and who would even care to? Israel is burning these weapons for fuel, and I don't see anyone burning those weapons years into the millennium. So, given my hermeneutic understanding, it appears to me, the Ezekiel 38: - 39: invasion has to start a minimum of 3 1/2 prior to the official start of the tribulation? 

It's amazing, never in the history of Russian expansion have they been involved in the middle-east or had defense compacts, treaties and alliances with Muslim nations. Now they have agreements with the North Africa Muslim nations and all the major players listed in the Bible that come against Israel. We see the stage being set in Syria [North of Israel] as we speak, with Russia, Iran and Turkey already in occupation, with the US pulling out. Turkey, a once friendly secular nation toward Israel where Israeli's once took their vacations to. Now shifted to radical Islam with a hatred toward Israel and a vision to restore their former Ottoman glory and power under Recep Tayyip Erdogan. 

These are exciting times to live in, watching the convergence of everything prophetic, and knowing our redemption is drawing near!

I think they are, but since neither seem to be a part of the 70th week, I keep it out of my purview, if I start taking about those events, people are sure to think its the same King of the North spoken of in Dan. 11:40-43, and is not, so since I am not going to be here after the Rapture, I deem it my responsibility to leave a record that those on earth can understand via my teachings/blogs etc. etc. I have blogs on World Press, Disqus and many places. 

So what I see, is wars that happen just before the Rapture, then a "CRAFTY ONE" born in Greece {Dan. 8} who comes to power in the E.U. {Dan. 7} thus we get the Dan. 11 RUNDOWN of the Greek Kings Lineage, that lead many worldly historians to swear Daniel had to have written this over 300 years later than is proclaimed in the bible, however of course the do error in their thinking, knowing not God it seems. He comes to power, then makes an Agreement with Israel and the MANY all around the Mediterranean Sea Region, and then reneges on those agreements, and we see whom he conquers in Dan. 11:40-43 {an who he doesn't---Jordan}

Islam will be destroyed because the Harlot is Destroyed. Figuring out who the Harlot is {All False Religion} is therefore very important. All I am going by is the books of Daniel and Revelation as per the 70th week of Tribulation. When all the Christians are Raptured, just look at the TYPES that will be in charge of the United States..........At the Rapture, our Nation will be no more a power, we will be a bunch pf pretenders. This is sadly true.

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