Slaughterhouses

[BeauJangles]

1 minute ago, Neighbor said:

Oh my, what all fruits and veggies only do to my digestive system.

You and me both, brother! 

[BeauJangles]

2 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Even the plants love blood and bone.

I'm not much on botany, but is that what bone meal is all about?

[Neighbor]

23 minutes ago, BeauJangles said:

I'm not much on botany, but is that what bone meal is all about?

Blood for nitrogen. Bone for phosphorus and  calcium.

wonderful especially for those hard to tend, keep healthy and nourish camellias-

Also about 5 pounds minimum to each 10  by 10 foot area of flowers.

 

[frienduff thaylorde]

I see a far more dangerous and deadly slaughter house and houses . 

The slaughterhouses where many go and die spiritually .   

May none enter her chambers .    Just a word of good advice .    

Enter into the HOUSE o the LORD and praise and rejoice in HIM .  

[Neighbor]

Hi Beaujangles,

-Or go to Hobby Lobby, buy plastics  like the other "good" Christians do. LOL

[johnthebaptist]

6 hours ago, Melinda12 said:

I just read on my news app the 'confessions of a slaughterhouse worker'. It is tough reading. I am disturbed by it as i like animals and know the love of my own pets.  

The Bible and Christianity do not forbid us to eat meat as far as i know. Of course animal killing for sacrifice is frequent in the Bible. 

Yet, is it right to do this to animals? I doubt many of us would eat meat if we had to kill first or if we saw the reality. We are insulated from the real horror in this modern world but it is worth thinking about surely? 

What is your view? 

I've thought of becoming a vegetarian but haven't found a way to get all the types of proteins I need without meat. And even if I could find out how to do that, finding a healthy vegetarian diet while traveling can be challenging. I tried a beans and rice frozen dinner (I heard such a meal would cover all the types of protein - I don't know how to cook), but it gave me some digestion problems.

[AnOrangeCat]

6 hours ago, Melinda12 said:

I just read on my news app the 'confessions of a slaughterhouse worker'. It is tough reading. I am disturbed by it as i like animals and know the love of my own pets.  

The Bible and Christianity do not forbid us to eat meat as far as i know. Of course animal killing for sacrifice is frequent in the Bible. 

Yet, is it right to do this to animals? I doubt many of us would eat meat if we had to kill first or if we saw the reality. We are insulated from the real horror in this modern world but it is worth thinking about surely? 

What is your view? 

You're right that there's no prohibition against eating meat, but the Bible does speak about the treatment of animals. Proverbs 12:10 is very relevant. "Whoever is righteous has regard for the life of his beast, but the mercy of the wicked is cruel."

The sort of thing you read about in articles about bad practices going on in slaughterhouses is evidence that there's a lot of wickedness in the world, especially in our big business. Go back further in the Old Testament and you'll find some very specific instructions for animal slaughter. It's designed to be quick, and even the quality of the knife is important. If the blade wasn't perfect it couldn't be used. I imagine that was to prevent the animal from suffering more than it had to as much as it was for our physical and mental health.

The Bible makes it a point to tell us that the things that go on in our hearts and occupy our thoughts matter. The things we're exposed to contribute to what's on our minds. Frequent, large scale exposure to any sort of death isn't going to do anyone's health any favors.

[BeauJangles]

10 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

I've thought of becoming a vegetarian but haven't found a way to get all the types of proteins I need without meat.

Here's a little information on the protein supplements that are currently available. I would avoid soy because it can cause some concern for male hormonal balances. 

 

Protein Supplements: The Ultimate Guide To The Best For You

Protein is a macronutrient found in many foods such as meats, dairy products, nuts, and beans, to name a few. It’s comprised of amino acids, the building blocks of lean body tissue that promote healthy skin, hair, bones, fingernails, as well as (drum roll, please) musclesDietary protein – its role in satiety, energetics, weight loss and health. Westerterp-Plantenga MS, Lemmens SG, Westerterp KR. Human Biology, Nutrim, MUMC, Maastricht University, Maastricht, Netherlands. British Journal of Nutrition. 2012 Aug;108 Suppl 2:S105-12.Trusted Source.

 

 

While many experts suggest getting the bulk of our protein from whole food sources, protein supplements can make it easier to get those aminos on-the-go. But not all protein supplements are created equalEffect of intake of different dietary protein sources on plasma amino Acid profiles at rest and after exercise. Burke LM, Winter JA, Cameron-Smith D, et al. Australian Institute of Sport, Belconnen, Australia Capital Territory, Australia. International Journal of Sport Nutrition and Exercise Metabolism, 2012 Dec;22(6):452-62.Trusted Source. Before dissecting the pros and cons of different protein sources it’s important to understand two ways protein supplements are often classified:

1. Protein Concentrate vs. Isolate: Protein is derived from various food sources and is “concentrated” by removing the non-protein parts. The result: a powder that’s 70 to 85 percent pure protein (with the remaining 15 to 30 percent consisting mostly of carbohydrates and fat). Taking the concentration process a step further, “isolation” removes a much higher percentage of non-protein content. The additional processing yields a premium protein that is up to 95 percent pure.

2. Complete vs. Incomplete Protein: Amino acids that cannot be produced by the body are known as essential amino acids. “Complete proteins” contain all nine essential amino acids, whereas “incomplete proteins” contain some, but not all, of the essential amino acids.

 

OK, now we are ready to dive into the fun stuff. Here is a detailed look at the most common protein powder supplements on the market, and what their pros and cons mean for you.

 

 

What’s Up With Supps?—Protein Comparison

1. Whey Protein

 

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The most popular protein supplement on the market today, whey is a by-product in the process of turning milk into cheese.

Pros: Whey protein has been shown to promote lean muscle growth and fat loss, as well as support cardiovascular health and a healthy metabolism Impact of milk consumption and resistance training on body composition of female athletes. Josse AR, Phillips SM. Medicine and sport science, 2012, Oct.;59():1662-2812. The effects of whey protein on cardiometabolic risk factors. Pal S, Radavelli-Bagatini S. Obesity reviews : an official journal of the International Association for the Study of Obesity, 2012, Nov.;14(4):1467-789X.Trusted Source. Whey is also quickly absorbed by the body, making it useful for post-workout recovery. Bonus: This inexpensive source of complete protein comes in a variety of flavors ranging from tried-and-true vanilla to decadent chocolate-mint ice cream.

Cons: The sugar found in milk (lactose) is a common allergen that can make whey indigestible for some. And while those tasty flavors make whey a yummy choice, they often (depending on the brand) come with a host of less-than-desirable artificial sweeteners and chemicals.

Protein is a macronutrient found in many foods such as meats, dairy products, nuts, and beans, to name a few. It’s comprised of amino acids, the building blocks of lean body tissue that promote healthy skin, hair, bones, fingernails, as well as (drum roll, please) musclesDietary protein – its role in satiety, energetics, weight loss and health. Westerterp-Plantenga MS, Lemmens SG, Westerterp KR. Human Biology, Nutrim, MUMC, Maastricht University, Maastricht, Netherlands. British Journal of Nutrition. 2012 Aug;108 Suppl 2:S105-12.Trusted Source.

 

 

While many experts suggest getting the bulk of our protein from whole food sources, protein supplements can make it easier to get those aminos on-the-go. But not all protein supplements are created equalEffect of intake of different dietary protein sources on plasma amino Acid profiles at rest and after exercise. Burke LM, Winter JA, Cameron-Smith D, et al. Australian Institute of Sport, Belconnen, Australia Capital Territory, Australia. International Journal of Sport Nutrition and Exercise Metabolism, 2012 Dec;22(6):452-62.Trusted Source. Before dissecting the pros and cons of different protein sources it’s important to understand two ways protein supplements are often classified:

1. Protein Concentrate vs. Isolate: Protein is derived from various food sources and is “concentrated” by removing the non-protein parts. The result: a powder that’s 70 to 85 percent pure protein (with the remaining 15 to 30 percent consisting mostly of carbohydrates and fat). Taking the concentration process a step further, “isolation” removes a much higher percentage of non-protein content. The additional processing yields a premium protein that is up to 95 percent pure.

2. Complete vs. Incomplete Protein: Amino acids that cannot be produced by the body are known as essential amino acids. “Complete proteins” contain all nine essential amino acids, whereas “incomplete proteins” contain some, but not all, of the essential amino acids.

2. Casein Protein

 

Here’s another protein powder that comes straight from the udder (figuratively speaking). Casein is produced using a separation process applied to liquid milk that can concentrate or isolate the milk protein from the carbs and fats.

Pros: Casein protein powder offers similar benefits to whey protein but with a different release process. Because casein digests over a long period of time, research has found it’s an optimal protein choice before bed. (Yum—bedtime protein shake!)

Cons: Casein is a by-product of milk, making it allergenic to some, much like whey. Also, it’s not ideal as a post-workout supplement because it’s absorbed so slowly. After exercise the body craves nutrients to replenish and rebuild—which is best left to whey or a combination of the two. Casein also more expensive than whey, and often contains many artificial ingredients to help make it more palatable.

3. Egg Protein

 

Egg protein comes from, well, eggs! It is a complete protein made by separating out the yolks and dehydrating the egg whites.

Pros: Aside from just protein, egg protein powders are rich in vitamins and minerals that can contribute to a healthy diet.

Cons: Allergies to eggs are common, similar to milk allergies, especially in children and young adults [Food allergy in childhood]. Szépfalusi Z. Wiener medizinische Wochenschrift (1946), 2012, Nov.;162(23-24):1563-258X.Trusted Source. Egg protein is also one of the most expensive protein supplements available, which is likely why Rocky Balboa did it this way.

4. Soy Protein

 

Soy beans are one of the few plant protein sources that offer all of the essential amino acids. The protein is concentrated or isolated after the soy beans have been hulled and dried into soy flour (which also makes for delicious pancakes!).

Pros: Protein from the soy bean may help improve the body’s immune function and promote bone health Effects of soybean peptide on immune function, brain function, and neurochemistry in healthy volunteers. Yimit D, Hoxur P, Amat N. Nutrition (Burbank, Los Angeles County, Calif.), 2011, Aug.;28(2):1873-1244. Soy foods: are they useful for optimal bone health? Lanou AJ. Therapeutic advances in musculoskeletal disease, 2012, Aug.;3(6):1759-7218.Trusted Source. Soy may also help prevent cardiovascular disease and reduce the risk of certain cancersEffect of soybean protein on novel cardiovascular disease risk factors: a randomized controlled trial. Rebholz CM, Reynolds K, Wofford MR. European journal of clinical nutrition, 2012, Nov.;67(1):1476-5640.Trusted Source.

Cons: In recent years, soy has come under heavy scrutiny because it is often genetically modified to produce greater crop yields. Some research has also singled out soy due to its effects on hormone levels. Many foods are already full of soy due to its extremely low-cost protein. This has led some to question whether adding even more dietary soy (via protein supplements) is a wise choice.

5. Rice Protein

 

News flash: There is protein in rice! Although often thought of as a carbohydrate only, brown rice is becoming a standard source for vegetarian protein powder.

Pros: Protein aside, brown rice protein is considered a good source of complex carbohydrates, vitamin B, and fiber. It’s also hypoallergenic, meaning it’s easily digestible and therefore almost entirely used by the body, not relieved as waste.

Cons: Unlike soy, rice protein is a plant-based option that’s deficient in some amino acids and therefore should not comprise the main source of dietary protein.

6. Hemp Protein

 

Hemp protein is derived from the seeds of the cannabis plant that’s gained popularity in recent years. (And yes, we are talking strictly about hemp as a food source here!)

Pros: Often referred to as a “superfood” due to its mix of essential fatty acids, hemp is vegan friendly and extremely hypoallergenic.

Cons: Since hemp isonly harvested in mass quantities in select countries due to its association with cannabis, it is often the most expensive protein powder available.

7. Pea Protein

 

Thought you’ve seen them all? Pea protein comes from the yellow split pea, making it a popular choice for vegetarians and vegans alike.

Pros: As with most plant-based proteins, pea protein is hypoallergenic. And with few additives or artificial ingredients, this one appeals to those looking for protein sources closest to the whole-food source. Don’t like peas? Don’t worry, the protein version doesn’t taste like mush!

Cons: Isolated pea protein is often considered complete because it can contain the spectrum of essential amino acids. Even still, it remains deficient in certain amino acids and should not be used as a primary source of dietary protein.

8. Weight Gainer

 

Looking to bulk up? Weight gainer combines protein, often whey, with a mix of high-carbohydrate ingredients that makes it much more calorie-dense than typical protein powders. It is often used by bodybuilders who are looking to pack on the pounds, or by serious athletes who have difficulty consuming enough calories to offset the large amount they burn through intense training.

Pros: Jam-packed with calories, weight gainers allow people to consume more calories than they could through food alone. They also help keep the grocery bill in check by delivering calories at a (slightly more) economical price.

Cons: Unsurprisingly,weight gainers often contain many additives, artificial sweeteners, and fillers so that they can pack the calorie and protein punch their users are looking for, and the huge calorie count in these products doesn’t necessarily translate to more muscle. In fact, all those extra calories will be stored as fat if not needed for recovery after intense exercise.

To the Protein Aisle!—The Takeaway

When it comes to protein powders, there really is something for everyone. Just keep in mind that when it comes to buying protein, as in life, “You get what you pay for.” Low-cost proteins often use inexpensive protein blends that may not be very digestible by the body.

 

 

It is also worth noting that the amount of protein required by the body depends on a person’s activity level, physical size, and gender. Testing various sources and quantities of protein can help determine a mix that works best. And just because it’s easy to chug a shake after a workout doesn’t mean protein powders should replace whole foods entirely. Protein powders are supplements, best used to supplement a healthy diet of nutritious whole foods.

 

 

Originally published January 2013. Updated June 2015.

 

 

[Figure of eighty]

4 hours ago, BeauJangles said:

Since the fall of mankind, animals took to prey, and the consumption of meat began to take place. 

I also have disdain for the slaying of animals. But I gotta have meat in my diet. I just do. 

This is the view from the word of God. 

Romans 14:2 KJV ²For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

Same. If i had to kill for my food Id be a herbivore. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, AnOrangeCat said:

You're right that there's no prohibition against eating meat, but the Bible does speak about the treatment of animals. Proverbs 12:10 is very relevant. "Whoever is righteous has regard for the life of his beast, but the mercy of the wicked is cruel."

The sort of thing you read about in articles about bad practices going on in slaughterhouses is evidence that there's a lot of wickedness in the world, especially in our big business. Go back further in the Old Testament and you'll find some very specific instructions for animal slaughter. It's designed to be quick, and even the quality of the knife is important. If the blade wasn't perfect it couldn't be used. I imagine that was to prevent the animal from suffering more than it had to as much as it was for our physical and mental health.

The Bible makes it a point to tell us that the things that go on in our hearts and occupy our thoughts matter. The things we're exposed to contribute to what's on our minds. Frequent, large scale exposure to any sort of death isn't going to do anyone's health any favors.

Indeed. What is awful is the life of the people who work in abbatoirs must be appalling. Many are prone to suicide, all are at physical risk. Can you imagine seeing so much blood daily and seeinfmg and hearing fear. Very disturbing.

As for Halal meat, that is a whole other lwvel of appallingness.