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On 1/7/2020 at 1:58 AM, Blood Bought 1953 said:

 

Jesus said, “ Repent”. He did NOT say “Repent of Sins”........Essentially He was saying “ Turn to God”.That will get results .Being  sorry for sins ain’t gonna save anybody. One needs  to find a way for Justification before God ....THAT is something that will save a person. The Tax Collector That wouldn’t even look up to Heaven yet cried out, “ God, have mercy on me , a sinner. HE went home JUSTIFIED ! That’s the type of True Repentance God   Requires For Salvation .Why would Jesus or John the Baptist preach anything less than something that would get the job done ?

What is there to repent of but sin? Why would anyone want to sin?

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29 minutes ago, Sonshine said:

Words of wisdom! :D

Thanks.

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27 minutes ago, Sonshine said:

I reckon I could repent of not sinning :whistling:  :huh: huh?

People do that. Not a good idea, though, I don't think.

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I agree that the sin to be repented of is relying on ones own righteousness, or guilt over sin as if those things ever saved..We are to turn away from US and rely on the finished work of Christ. A " sinnets prayer", a date, feeling sorry are not strong evidences of salvation. What you are saved by is what you are kept by. And since Jesus says He's the only one whose hand a Christian can never be plucked from it is Christ who saves and He who keeps. Even Satan believes in Jesus.. Repentance is more..it's a reliance on the imputed work of Christ who has made the Christian a new creation and sealed with the holy spirit for that day! Christ is the only anchor that does not fail; the only foundation that survived the storm. Don't build you house on sinking sand. 

 

 Christ alone my hope is found,
He is my light, my strength, my song
This Cornerstone, this solid Ground
Firm through the fiercest drought and storm.
What heights of love, what depths of peace
When fears are stilled, when strivings cease
My Comforter, my All in All
Here in the love of Christ I stand. 

  1. In Christ alone my hope is found,
    He is my light, my strength, my song
    This Cornerstone, this solid Ground
    Firm through the fiercest drought and storm.
    What heights of love, what depths of peace
    When fears are stilled, when strivings cease
    My Comforter, my All in All
    Here in the love of Christ I stand.
    In Christ alone! - who took on flesh,
    Fullness of God in helpless babe.
    This gift of love and righteousness,
    Scorned by the ones He came to save
    Till on that cross as Jesus died,
    The wrath of God was satisfied
    For every sin on Him was laid
    Here in the death of Christ I live.
    There in the ground His body lay,
    Light of the world by darkness slain:
    Then bursting forth in glorious day
    Up from the grave He rose again
    And as He stands in victory
    Sin's curse has lost its grip on me,
    For I am His and He is mine
    Bought with the precious blood of Christ
    No guilt in life, no fear in death,
    This is the power of Christ in me
    From life's first cry to final breath,
    Jesus commands my destiny
    No power of hell, no scheme of man,
    Can ever pluck me from His hand
    Till He returns or calls me home
    Here in the power of Christ I'll stand
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On 1/9/2020 at 4:15 PM, Sonshine said:

Right.  I was being sarcastic.  Each time a Christian is convicted of sin, he repents, confesses his sin and asks the LORD to forgive him.  And our Father in heaven forgives.  He promises. :)

1 John 1:9 New King James Version (NKJV)

If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

This was written to the Christian. This confessing is not salvific. It's like when Jesus explained his deciples didn't need a bath just to wash their feet. Conversion is different.

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On 1/6/2020 at 8:13 PM, johnthebaptist said:

When we judge someone, we'd better be prepared to be judged. But if there were no judgment, murderers, and the like, would go free.

This is basic stuff but remember there's a difference between being judgemental of others and simply evaluating. To judge others is wrong and it's what Jesus was warning the people not to do. But it's correct and even necessary to evaluate all things.

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1 minute ago, JTC said:

This is basic stuff but remember there's a difference between being judgemental of others and simply evaluating. To judge others is wrong and it's what Jesus was warning the people not to do. But it's correct and even necessary to evaluate all things.

When a murderer goes to trial, you can call it judgment or you can call it evaluation - it is what it is. 

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We should always have elders who are knowledgeable in right interpretation of  God's word. It also says In 2nd Timothy " Show they self approved a workman who need not be ashamed , but rightly dividing the word of truth . We should be able to recognize error and false teaching.

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On 1/6/2020 at 10:11 AM, johnthebaptist said:

You might remember Jesus said, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand" (Matthew 4:17 RSV). I submit to you that we can not understand its meaning until we’ve repented of our sin. I also submit to you that some of our church leaders, theologians, and biblical scholars have not repented of their sin, so when they try to explain the verse’s meaning, they speak nonsense. It’s important that we obey God so we can understand him, as opposed to believing everything church leaders, biblical scholars, and theologians tell us.

You can not believe everything a Pastor, Church leaders or those on Worthy tell you. You need to know the Bible so well that you can tell a counterfeit right a way. You need to have Christian descernment. There is a lot of false teaching out there. Satan loves it. That is one of his best tools. 

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On 1/9/2020 at 10:22 AM, johnthebaptist said:

What is there to repent of but sin? Why would anyone want to sin?

But friend, ...what you are saying is "not" the Biblical definition of repenting.

The word repent is metanoeō, it meaning is:

1) to change one’s mind, i.e. to repent
2) to change one’s mind for better, heartily to amend with abhorrence of one’s past sins

Please notice, repentance takes place in the "mind."

Our sins are done by our body.

Man is a spirit, ...he has a soul and they both "live" in a physical body.

Looking "logically" at what you are saying is...

The first time I "repented" I changed my mind about Jesus, ...then the next time I "repented" I "changed my mind about Jesus, ...then I repented again and again I "changed" my mind about Jesus, ...continuing on and on our whole lives, ...changing our "mind" about Jesus, ...flipping back and forth about "who" Jesus is.

I challenge you, take a concordance and look for the word "repent," metanoeō, to change our mind, ...in the Letters the Holy Spirit wrote to His Church from Romans to Jude, ...go for it, ...you won't find the word "repent" mentioned one time in the context of a spiritual signification, ...but don't believe me, prove me wrong, ...study to show yourself approved.  2 Tim 2:15

Lord bless

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