johnthebaptist Posted January 9, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 On 1/7/2020 at 1:58 AM, Blood Bought 1953 said: Jesus said, “ Repent”. He did NOT say “Repent of Sins”........Essentially He was saying “ Turn to God”.That will get results .Being sorry for sins ain’t gonna save anybody. One needs to find a way for Justification before God ....THAT is something that will save a person. The Tax Collector That wouldn’t even look up to Heaven yet cried out, “ God, have mercy on me , a sinner. HE went home JUSTIFIED ! That’s the type of True Repentance God Requires For Salvation .Why would Jesus or John the Baptist preach anything less than something that would get the job done ? What is there to repent of but sin? Why would anyone want to sin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted January 9, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 29 minutes ago, Sonshine said: Words of wisdom! Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted January 9, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 27 minutes ago, Sonshine said: I reckon I could repent of not sinning huh? People do that. Not a good idea, though, I don't think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6DaysiseneG Posted January 10, 2020 Group: Members Followers: 4 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 43 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/07/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2020 I agree that the sin to be repented of is relying on ones own righteousness, or guilt over sin as if those things ever saved..We are to turn away from US and rely on the finished work of Christ. A " sinnets prayer", a date, feeling sorry are not strong evidences of salvation. What you are saved by is what you are kept by. And since Jesus says He's the only one whose hand a Christian can never be plucked from it is Christ who saves and He who keeps. Even Satan believes in Jesus.. Repentance is more..it's a reliance on the imputed work of Christ who has made the Christian a new creation and sealed with the holy spirit for that day! Christ is the only anchor that does not fail; the only foundation that survived the storm. Don't build you house on sinking sand. Christ alone my hope is found, He is my light, my strength, my song This Cornerstone, this solid Ground Firm through the fiercest drought and storm. What heights of love, what depths of peace When fears are stilled, when strivings cease My Comforter, my All in All Here in the love of Christ I stand. In Christ alone my hope is found, He is my light, my strength, my song This Cornerstone, this solid Ground Firm through the fiercest drought and storm. What heights of love, what depths of peace When fears are stilled, when strivings cease My Comforter, my All in All Here in the love of Christ I stand. In Christ alone! - who took on flesh, Fullness of God in helpless babe. This gift of love and righteousness, Scorned by the ones He came to save Till on that cross as Jesus died, The wrath of God was satisfied For every sin on Him was laid Here in the death of Christ I live. There in the ground His body lay, Light of the world by darkness slain: Then bursting forth in glorious day Up from the grave He rose again And as He stands in victory Sin's curse has lost its grip on me, For I am His and He is mine Bought with the precious blood of Christ No guilt in life, no fear in death, This is the power of Christ in me From life's first cry to final breath, Jesus commands my destiny No power of hell, no scheme of man, Can ever pluck me from His hand Till He returns or calls me home Here in the power of Christ I'll stand 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6DaysiseneG Posted January 10, 2020 Group: Members Followers: 4 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 43 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/07/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2020 On 1/9/2020 at 4:15 PM, Sonshine said: Right. I was being sarcastic. Each time a Christian is convicted of sin, he repents, confesses his sin and asks the LORD to forgive him. And our Father in heaven forgives. He promises. 1 John 1:9 New King James Version (NKJV) 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. This was written to the Christian. This confessing is not salvific. It's like when Jesus explained his deciples didn't need a bath just to wash their feet. Conversion is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTC Posted January 10, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,795 Content Per Day: 0.65 Reputation: 1,502 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/25/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/26/1952 Share Posted January 10, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 8:13 PM, johnthebaptist said: When we judge someone, we'd better be prepared to be judged. But if there were no judgment, murderers, and the like, would go free. This is basic stuff but remember there's a difference between being judgemental of others and simply evaluating. To judge others is wrong and it's what Jesus was warning the people not to do. But it's correct and even necessary to evaluate all things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted January 10, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 minute ago, JTC said: This is basic stuff but remember there's a difference between being judgemental of others and simply evaluating. To judge others is wrong and it's what Jesus was warning the people not to do. But it's correct and even necessary to evaluate all things. When a murderer goes to trial, you can call it judgment or you can call it evaluation - it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Mclees Posted January 11, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 158 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 1,915 Content Per Day: 0.81 Reputation: 910 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/15/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) We should always have elders who are knowledgeable in right interpretation of God's word. It also says In 2nd Timothy " Show they self approved a workman who need not be ashamed , but rightly dividing the word of truth . We should be able to recognize error and false teaching. Edited January 11, 2020 by Mike Mclees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 11, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,989 Topics Per Day: 0.49 Content Count: 48,687 Content Per Day: 11.89 Reputation: 30,342 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 10:11 AM, johnthebaptist said: You might remember Jesus said, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand" (Matthew 4:17 RSV). I submit to you that we can not understand its meaning until we’ve repented of our sin. I also submit to you that some of our church leaders, theologians, and biblical scholars have not repented of their sin, so when they try to explain the verse’s meaning, they speak nonsense. It’s important that we obey God so we can understand him, as opposed to believing everything church leaders, biblical scholars, and theologians tell us. You can not believe everything a Pastor, Church leaders or those on Worthy tell you. You need to know the Bible so well that you can tell a counterfeit right a way. You need to have Christian descernment. There is a lot of false teaching out there. Satan loves it. That is one of his best tools. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPassingThru Posted January 12, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,979 Content Per Day: 1.00 Reputation: 2,112 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted January 12, 2020 On 1/9/2020 at 10:22 AM, johnthebaptist said: What is there to repent of but sin? Why would anyone want to sin? But friend, ...what you are saying is "not" the Biblical definition of repenting. The word repent is metanoeō, it meaning is: 1) to change one’s mind, i.e. to repent 2) to change one’s mind for better, heartily to amend with abhorrence of one’s past sins Please notice, repentance takes place in the "mind." Our sins are done by our body. Man is a spirit, ...he has a soul and they both "live" in a physical body. Looking "logically" at what you are saying is... The first time I "repented" I changed my mind about Jesus, ...then the next time I "repented" I "changed my mind about Jesus, ...then I repented again and again I "changed" my mind about Jesus, ...continuing on and on our whole lives, ...changing our "mind" about Jesus, ...flipping back and forth about "who" Jesus is. I challenge you, take a concordance and look for the word "repent," metanoeō, to change our mind, ...in the Letters the Holy Spirit wrote to His Church from Romans to Jude, ...go for it, ...you won't find the word "repent" mentioned one time in the context of a spiritual signification, ...but don't believe me, prove me wrong, ...study to show yourself approved. 2 Tim 2:15 Lord bless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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