johnthebaptist Posted January 12, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.32 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, JustPassingThru said: But friend, ...what you are saying is "not" the Biblical definition of repenting. The word repent is metanoeō, it meaning is: 1) to change one’s mind, i.e. to repent 2) to change one’s mind for better, heartily to amend with abhorrence of one’s past sins Please notice, repentance takes place in the "mind." Our sins are done by our body. Man is a spirit, ...he has a soul and they both "live" in a physical body. Looking "logically" at what you are saying is... The first time I "repented" I changed my mind about Jesus, ...then the next time I "repented" I "changed my mind about Jesus, ...then I repented again and again I "changed" my mind about Jesus, ...continuing on and on our whole lives, ...changing our "mind" about Jesus, ...flipping back and forth about "who" Jesus is. I challenge you, take a concordance and look for the word "repent," metanoeō, to change our mind, ...in the Letters the Holy Spirit wrote to His Church from Romans to Jude, ...go for it, ...you won't find the word "repent" mentioned one time in the context of a spiritual signification, ...but don't believe me, prove me wrong, ...study to show yourself approved. 2 Tim 2:15 Lord bless If we don't repent of our sin, repentance has no value, has it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPassingThru Posted January 12, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,979 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 2,112 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted January 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said: If we don't repent of our sin, repentance has no value, has it? Dear brother, did you take the challenge, ...did you find the word "repent" in the Books of the NT like I asked? So what are you saying, ...our "repentance" is what causes Father to forgive us??? We don't "repent" of our sins, ...we confess our sins: If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 john 1:9 The word confess is homologeō, ...it means to say the same thing as God, ...when we sin we don't say, "Father I have sinned, please forgive me"...that is useless because Father has "forgotten" ALL of our sins, ...maybe at the Cross, but most probably before the foundation of the world Rev 13:8, ...when the Lamb was actually slain, ...If I was to say, "Father forgive me I have sinned," in 2020, ...he wouldn't know what I was talking about because He has already "chosen" to not remember them a long long time ago. But if I say, "I confess my sin of lusting after that woman with my eyes," ...I'm agreeing with Him that it "is" sin and then the door is open to ask Him to "remove" that part of my old carnal, sinful nature in the old man that is still alive and living with me, ...and then my "confession" becomes another step in my Sanctification process of being "transformed" into the image of Christ. So you see, ...if we believe the lie of the devil and try to physically "repent" every time we sin, instead of confessing, ...it is slowing down, and quite possibly stopping, the Sanctification process of being "conformed "into the image of Christ. Lord bless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted January 12, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.32 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 minute ago, JustPassingThru said: Dear brother, did you take the challenge, ...did you find the word "repent" in the Books of the NT like I asked? So what are you saying, ...our "repentance" is what causes Father to forgive us??? We don't "repent" of our sins, ...we confess our sins: If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 john 1:9 The word confess is homologeō, ...it means to say the same thing as God, ...when we sin we don't say, "Father I have sinned, please forgive me"...that is useless because Father has "forgotten" ALL of our sins, ...maybe at the Cross, but most probably before the foundation of the world Rev 13:8, ...when the Lamb was actually slain, ...If I was to say, "Father forgive me I have sinned," in 2020, ...he wouldn't know what I was talking about because He has already "chosen" to not remember them a long long time ago. But if I say, "I confess my sin of lusting after that woman with my eyes," ...I'm agreeing with Him that it "is" sin and then the door is open to ask Him to "remove" that part of my old carnal, sinful nature in the old man that is still alive and living with me, ...and then my "confession" becomes another step in my Sanctification process of being "transformed" into the image of Christ. So you see, ...if we believe the lie of the devil and try to physically "repent" every time we sin, instead of confessing, ...it is slowing down, and quite possibly stopping, the Sanctification process of being "conformed "into the image of Christ. Lord bless No, I did not. I try not to sin. Nothing is going to change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPassingThru Posted January 13, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,979 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 2,112 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted January 13, 2020 4 hours ago, johnthebaptist said: No, I did not. How sad, ...if you don't use the Word to build your faith on, ...what do you use? So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ. Rom 10:17 4 hours ago, johnthebaptist said: I try not to sin. Nothing is going to change that. Nothing is going to change is not really correct, ...what "will" change "that" is God allowing "you" to try and stop sinning in your "own" power, ...until finally you are so, weak, tired, frustrated and then in total defeat, coming to the realization, "...you" can't do it, ...and you cry out to Jesus to help you! What you don't seem to understand is the power, energy, force that causes us to sin is the devil, the Word calls him the "prince" of the power of the air, ...you have been deceived into thinking you can defeat the devil at his own game and his supernatural power (that would be like thinking you could lift the Peppermill Casino off of the ground with/in your own personal strength), ...I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, ...but it's the Truth and I'm trying to help you so that you can escape the snare of the devil. Lord bless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted January 13, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.32 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, JustPassingThru said: How sad, ...if you don't use the Word to build your faith on, ...what do you use? So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ. Rom 10:17 Nothing is going to change is not really correct, ...what "will" change "that" is God allowing "you" to try and stop sinning in your "own" power, ...until finally you are so, weak, tired, frustrated and then in total defeat, coming to the realization, "...you" can't do it, ...and you cry out to Jesus to help you! What you don't seem to understand is the power, energy, force that causes us to sin is the devil, the Word calls him the "prince" of the power of the air, ...you have been deceived into thinking you can defeat the devil at his own game and his supernatural power (that would be like thinking you could lift the Peppermill Casino off of the ground with/in your own personal strength), ...I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, ...but it's the Truth and I'm trying to help you so that you can escape the snare of the devil. Lord bless I do use God's Word, but my definition of God's Word is different than yours. My definition of God's Word is those instances God or Jesus are quoted in the Bible, and there are a lot of them. And then, as Paul taught, I try to be in constant prayer, always conversing with the Lord, always learning. I'm not going to apologize for trying not to sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPassingThru Posted January 13, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,979 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 2,112 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted January 13, 2020 27 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said: I do use God's Word, but my definition of God's Word is different than yours. Friend, ...the "only" correct definition of God's Word is not yours, ...or mine, ...it's His. Lord bless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted January 13, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.32 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, JustPassingThru said: Friend, ...the "only" correct definition of God's Word is not yours, ...or mine, ...it's His. Lord bless You should be watching the football game. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPassingThru Posted January 13, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,979 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 2,112 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted January 13, 2020 They don't show American Football here and I don't care for Soccer, ...besides I quit watching football with the demise of the Oakland Raiders back in the 70's, ...even missed their Superbowl game because the Warren & Coburn "Rain for Rent Special" AA Fuel Dragster was being tested after a new clutch had been installed, ...in an industrial zone about a 1/2 mile from my house, ...nothing like a Top Fuel revving at 10,000 RPM, ...it's music to my ears, ...they said they figured all of the cops were watching the game... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted January 13, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.89 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 13, 2020 On 1/9/2020 at 3:22 PM, johnthebaptist said: What is there to repent of but sin? Why would anyone want to sin? Repent comes from the Greek Word “ metanoia” which means “ change your mind”......One must have a “mind change” in regard to the Gospel to be saved. You change your mind from thinking you do not need a Savior, to realizing that the Savior ( Jesus Christ) is the only hope you have Of Salvation.Unbelief in Christ becomes Belief in Christ— if one has done that , they have “ changed their mind” .....they have Repented in the manner in which God demands for Salvation...... Why would anyone want to sin? Perhaps it is fun.....perhaps it feels good.....Even the Bible proclaims That sin is “ pleasurable”— but ONLY “ for a season”. That last part is the part Satan trues to hide when he is trying to tempt or entice one into sinful behavior . No matter how you slice it— you can’t sin and get by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve morrow Posted January 14, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,039 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 358 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/15/2019 Status: Online Birthday: 07/07/1955 Share Posted January 14, 2020 @bb53 & all ROMANS 12:3 for I say through the grace given unto me to every man that is among you --- not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think--- but to think soberly according as GOD hath dealt to every man the measure of faith MARK 8:35 for whosoever will save his life shall lose it but whosoever shall lose his life for MY SAKE AND THE GOSPELS---the same shall save it EZEKIEL 18:21 but if the wicked --WILL TURN / REPENT-- from all his sins that he hath committed and keep all my statutes and do that which is lawful and right he shall surely live he shall not die EZEKIEL 33:19 but if the wicked ---TURN FROM HIS WICKEDNESS / REPENT and do that which is lawful and right he shall live thereby_ __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ PROVERBS 4:14 enter not into the path of the wicked and go not in the way of evil men --4:15-- avoid it pass not by it turn from it and pass away --4:16--for they sleep not except they have done mischief and their sleep is taken away unless they cause some to fall __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 2 THESSALONIANS 1:7 and you who are troubled rest with us when THE LORD JESUS shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels --1:8--in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not GOD ---AND THAT OBEY NOT THE GOSPEL OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST--- 1:9--who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of THE LORD and from the glory of HIS power 2 THESSALONIANS 3:14 and --IF ANY MAN-- OBEY NOT -- our word by this epistle note that man and have no company with him that he may be ashamed --3:15-- yet count him not as an enemy but admonish him as a brother 2 PETER 2:21 for it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness than after they have known it to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them LOVING THE LORD JESUS CHRIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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