joebloggs Posted January 7, 2020 Group: Junior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 105 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 (NIV) 34 Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. what do you think this scripture intends to communicate to us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTC Posted January 7, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,795 Content Per Day: 0.65 Reputation: 1,502 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/25/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/26/1952 Share Posted January 7, 2020 God inspired the scriptures but people wrote them. A very few of them seem to be time oriented showing the attitudes of the people of the time. I think that's what this was. We have to remember it's only been about 100 years that society stopped looking at women as 2nd class citizens. America has moved past such archaic attitudes but not all countries of the world have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted January 7, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.31 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted January 7, 2020 3 hours ago, joebloggs said: 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 (NIV) 34 Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. what do you think this scripture intends to communicate to us? I think Paul misspoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 7, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,079 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,825 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2020 3 hours ago, joebloggs said: 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 (NIV) 34 Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. what do you think this scripture intends to communicate to us? who is he talking to and what was the situation there that brought on the conversation.... if we don't know these things I don't think we can understand the context.... was he just speaking to the Corinthians or to the entire Christian world.... to them just at that time or for all time to come.... What were the local standards at that time and what problems was it causing.... what pagan beliefs were there and was it infecting the church there. Remember that a lot of Paul's letters are correcting things wrong in the churches that was causing some kinds of problems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReneeIW Posted January 7, 2020 Group: Senior Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 42 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 944 Content Per Day: 0.54 Reputation: 780 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/06/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2020 3 hours ago, joebloggs said: 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 (NIV) 34 Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. what do you think this scripture intends to communicate to us? If you read the context, he was talking about prophesy. But prophesy was actually permitted for women in 1 Corinthians chapter 11. Also, he says”as the LAW” says. We are not under the law. So not sure what’s going on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 7, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,079 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,825 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2020 30 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said: I think Paul misspoke. that would be a serious problem if so.... would the Lord let a misspoken situation be in the Bible.... maybe something we don't understand, but an outright mistake would be something serious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted January 7, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 266 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,197 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,495 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Share Posted January 7, 2020 4 hours ago, joebloggs said: 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 (NIV) 34 Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. what do you think this scripture intends to communicate to us? Hi Joe, To keep silent, means not meddlesomeness. If we also look at 1 Tim. 2: 11 Paul says the same thing. It is in relation to women talking out of turn and interfering in the gathering. Remember that Paul says when we gather that EACH ONE BRING a psalm, a hymn a spiritual song, etc, and also that women can prophecy. The word relates to being `meddlesome` in a meeting which women can tend to do in a small group. Marilyn. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted January 7, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.31 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted January 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, other one said: that would be a serious problem if so.... would the Lord let a misspoken situation be in the Bible.... maybe something we don't understand, but an outright mistake would be something serious... I don't think it would be serious. If you want absolute truth, read the things God and Jesus said in the Bible. If you want to hear a great missionary speak, read Paul's letters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 7, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,079 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,825 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2020 Just now, johnthebaptist said: I don't think it would be serious. If you want absolute truth, read the things God and Jesus said in the Bible. If you want to hear a great missionary speak, read Paul's letters. what parts of the Bible can I not trust.... Even the Gospels are what other people say Jesus said.... God or Jesus themselves did not say anything themselves in the bible. The entire Bible is hearsay.... and it would be very dangerous to not trust any of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted January 7, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.31 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, other one said: what parts of the Bible can I not trust.... Even the Gospels are what other people say Jesus said.... God or Jesus themselves did not say anything themselves in the bible. The entire Bible is hearsay.... and it would be very dangerous to not trust any of it. You can trust the Bible to be an accurate account of what it witnesses to. If it says God said something, then God said it. If it says something happened, it happened. The letters of Paul are genuine. It doesn't mean Paul was right 100% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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