frienduff thaylorde Posted January 9, 2020 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.40 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted January 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, maryjayne said: There's a lot of admonishion to men about how to treat their wives. Acting like a wife is a slave or lesser human is not biblical. We can't pick and choose scripture, but we can make sure our understanding of what the Bible says is correct. MJ you are loved . the word you are looking for is admonition . Its okay dear sister , I promise I am not poking fun . MJ , you be encouraged . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted January 9, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.26 Reputation: 9,760 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, maryjayne said: There's a lot of admonishion to men about how to treat their wives. Acting like a wife is a slave or lesser human is not biblical. We can't pick and choose scripture, but we can make sure our understanding of what the Bible says is correct. So true. Just read Ephesians 5. Men who treat their wives like slaves are not men of God. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted January 9, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 minute ago, OneLight said: About 2000 years have gone by since Paul wrote the epistles. Have you ever considered the culture it was written in, or are you basing the scripture only on what the world is like today? If you are arguing that God had Paul say something that was true then, but not true now, I disagree. I just think Paul spoke errantly. I've heard that same argument about homosexuality. They say it was wrong in Old Testament times, but it's okay now. Anyway, I take Paul's epistles, and the entire Bible, at face value. Otherwise you can disbelieve the whole book - even direct quotations of God and Jesus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted January 9, 2020 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.40 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Everyone , pretend you all just did not see that . if folks knew I actually knew English and how to write grammar , I would then be expected to write well . So don't let anyone know I can write well or spell . I would have to actually put peroids , commas , quoates and restructure my sentences . AND PHEW that is lots of work . SO can we just pretend me a dummy . BUT at least KNOW I LOVE THE LORD and just truly desire none to perish . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted January 9, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted January 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, maryjayne said: There's a lot of admonishion to men about how to treat their wives. Acting like a wife is a slave or lesser human is not biblical. We can't pick and choose scripture, but we can make sure our understanding of what the Bible says is correct. I believe only Jesus and God had the authority to issue commandments. The epistle writers teach us a lot, but they didn't have the authority to issue commandments, I don't believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted January 9, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,763 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 12,160 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted January 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said: If you are arguing that God had Paul say something that was true then, but not true now, I disagree. I just think Paul spoke errantly. I've heard that same argument about homosexuality. They say it was wrong in Old Testament times, but it's okay now. Anyway, I take Paul's epistles, and the entire Bible, at face value. Otherwise you can disbelieve the whole book - even direct quotations of God and Jesus. , Quote I disagree. I just think Paul spoke errantly. Quote I take Paul's epistles, and the entire Bible, at face value. Otherwise you can disbelieve the whole book - even direct quotations of God and Jesus. Are you a born again Christian John ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted January 9, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.26 Reputation: 9,760 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 minute ago, johnthebaptist said: If you are arguing that God had Paul say something that was true then, but not true now, I disagree. I just think Paul spoke errantly. I've heard that same argument about homosexuality. They say it was wrong in Old Testament times, but it's okay now. Anyway, I take Paul's epistles, and the entire Bible, at face value. Otherwise you can disbelieve the whole book - even direct quotations of God and Jesus. John, do you go to a Synagogue where men are separated from the women, where men are the only ones who speak? Have you researched the culture of Paul's days? There is a world of difference between women not being allowed to speak in the Synagogue and homosexuality - why even try to go down this rabbit hole? Yet, you do not believe what Paul states about the Synagogue. Either you accept the whole bible as true, or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted January 9, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,763 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 12,160 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted January 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said: I believe the Holy Spirit is God. I'm sure he inspired most of the Bible, but not Paul's remarks about women remaining silent in churches and obeying each and every command issued by their husbands. Where does t say that you can pick and choose of what to believe from the Bible? Every word of God is pure; He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him. 6Do not add to His words, lest He rebuke you and prove you a liar.Proverbs 30:5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted January 9, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, nzkev said: Jesus Rules over the Church And The Church Loves him, The church doesn't Speak For Jesus it points To the Word, See how that works But then we need to define "The Word." I define it as those times God or Jesus are quoted in the Bible. Others define it as the entire Bible. Edited January 9, 2020 by johnthebaptist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted January 9, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted January 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, angels4u said: , Are you a born again Christian John ? Yes, I would say I am, though it isn't something normally discussed in our church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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