BeauJangles Posted January 10, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted January 10, 2020 27 minutes ago, Margo1945 said: was Paul bald by any chance, @BeauJangles .. lol Oh, my! That's funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 10, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,088 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,833 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2020 58 minutes ago, Margo1945 said: was Paul bald by any chance, @BeauJangles .. lol LoL I don't think that thought ever crossed my mind.... LoL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted January 10, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.31 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, BeauJangles said: Hmm... Well bro, Paul did have his own personal opinion in this verse. 1 Corinthians 11:14 KJV 14Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? I used to have long hair. Short hair is easier to take care of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted January 11, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted January 11, 2020 3 hours ago, johnthebaptist said: I used to have long hair. Short hair is easier to take care of. I'm perfectly aware of that, John. My hair lengths have been both cropped extremely short, and down to the waist at one time. Including everything else in between. Of course short hair is easier to take care of. That's not the issue of the scripture, nor the point being made. I was simply giving one example of the Apostle Paul's personal opinion, since this seems to be the turn of the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted January 11, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted January 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Margo1945 said: I don't know about such being Paul's personal opinion or not .. the only passage I recall where Paul gave a personal opinion was the one about advising the apostles and disciples to remain unmarried due to all involved in doing the Lord's Will but that if any had a need to be married, to do so .. Paul did make it clear in this what he would recommend but what could be for those who did not wish to follow his recommendation for whatever reason .. The Apostle Paul did also say this. 1 Corinthians 7:6-9 6But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment. 7For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that. 8I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I. 9But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted January 11, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.24 Reputation: 9,760 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2020 9 hours ago, johnthebaptist said: I don't believe God told Paul to tell us women can't speak in church. If you don't want to believe scripture, that is your choice, but as with false teachings, if any piece is false, then the whole is false. You cannot cherry pick what you like and toss what you don't like and still believe the Bible to be the true word of God. That is being double minded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted January 11, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.31 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted January 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, OneLight said: If you don't want to believe scripture, that is your choice, but as with false teachings, if any piece is false, then the whole is false. You cannot cherry pick what you like and toss what you don't like and still believe the Bible to be the true word of God. That is being double minded. If it's okay for women to speak in church today, then it was okay for women to speak in church during Paul's day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerDC Posted January 11, 2020 Group: Catholic Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 89 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/08/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2020 17 hours ago, other one said: no, johnthebaptist is and I was questioning him about it Okay, sorry I got it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerDC Posted January 11, 2020 Group: Catholic Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 89 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/08/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2020 10 hours ago, johnthebaptist said: No, I believe in justice. I see no justice in telling a woman she can't speak in church and then telling a man that he can. Have you not read that "the wisdom of man is foolishness to God"? You are not required to understand God's will, but only to respect it and obey His instructions, as expressed through the apostles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted January 11, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.31 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted January 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, RogerDC said: Have you not read that "the wisdom of man is foolishness to God"? You are not required to understand God's will, but only to respect it and obey His instructions, as expressed through the apostles. Well, God never said women can't speak in church. It was Paul who said it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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